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    Jeff Winter Calls Fergie a Bully

    I always thought Winter was a bit of a ****, but at least he has the balls to call this one:

    Jeff Winter has described Sir Alex Ferguson as "a bully" and "a coward" for his attack on Alan Wiley. Following United's 2-2 draw at home to Sunderland on Saturday Ferguson claimed that the 49-year-old Wiley was "unfit". Winter, a retired Premier League referee, believes it was an unforgivable slight on his former colleague and predicts a backlash from referees assigned to officiate at Old Trafford.

    "I think Sir Alex may have overstepped the line this time and he may be about to get his comeuppance," he said. "I think referees will be so incensed about this that Sir Alex may find that United no longer get the benefit of the doubt on certain decisions."

    Winter believes the criticism of Wiley was designed to deflect attention from United's poor performance but that it will have long-term consequences for the rest of the referee's career. "It was a cowardly attack – Sir Alex wouldn't have said it to Alan Wiley's face," said Winter.

    "Every game Alan Wiley takes charge of now where he makes a decision which upsets some fans is going to result in chants of 'You're not fit to referee', he's going to be known as the 'unfit ref'. Sir Alex won't care though. He's a knight of the realm and he thinks he's untouchable, bullet proof.

    "But he's also a bully. He spoke at Sir Bobby Robson's memorial service a couple of weeks ago and said he'd learnt a lot from Sir Bobby. But he hadn't, they were totally different, Sir Bobby was a gentleman. He was humble and had respect for people."

    Winter feels Ferguson neglected to extend Wiley a proper duty of care. "Alan Wiley had not contributed in any shape or form to United only drawing and he cannot fight back. It won't happen but, if I was Alan, I'd be tempted to sue Sir Alex."

    Winter says he is "not a friend" of Wiley's but had considerable respect for him as a colleague. "I've trained with the guy and I know just how fit and professional he is," he said. "He's 49 now but he's still extremely fit. If he wasn't he wouldn't be getting a game, simple as that. Referees don't just have an annual fitness test which is pretty tough but they are continually assessed and re-assessed." All referees have ptis (personal training instructors) looking after them. Anyone not up to standard is dropped".

    The prospect of the Football Association charging Ferguson with disrepute does nothing to assuage Winter's anger. "What difference will it make?" he said. "What can they do to him give him a touchline ban and fine him. Fines don't hurt multi-millionaires."

    Adverse refereeing decisions might though. "Human nature's a funny thing," mused Winter. "Sir Alex might just find a few refereeing decisions going against him."

    Manchester United declined to comment tonight.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...es-jeff-winter

    #2
    He's being too nice.......cunt would be more apt

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      #3
      Originally posted by Slim View Post
      I always thought Winter was a bit of a ****, but at least he has the balls to call this one:

      Jeff Winter has described Sir Alex Ferguson as "a bully" and "a coward" for his attack on Alan Wiley. Following United's 2-2 draw at home to Sunderland on Saturday Ferguson claimed that the 49-year-old Wiley was "unfit". Winter, a retired Premier League referee, believes it was an unforgivable slight on his former colleague and predicts a backlash from referees assigned to officiate at Old Trafford.

      "I think Sir Alex may have overstepped the line this time and he may be about to get his comeuppance," he said. "I think referees will be so incensed about this that Sir Alex may find that United no longer get the benefit of the doubt on certain decisions."

      Winter believes the criticism of Wiley was designed to deflect attention from United's poor performance but that it will have long-term consequences for the rest of the referee's career. "It was a cowardly attack – Sir Alex wouldn't have said it to Alan Wiley's face," said Winter.

      "Every game Alan Wiley takes charge of now where he makes a decision which upsets some fans is going to result in chants of 'You're not fit to referee', he's going to be known as the 'unfit ref'. [B]Sir Alex won't care though. He's a knight of the realm and he thinks he's untouchable, bullet proof.

      "But he's also a bully. He spoke at Sir Bobby Robson's memorial service a couple of weeks ago and said he'd learnt a lot from Sir Bobby. But he hadn't, they were totally different, Sir Bobby was a gentleman. He was humble and had respect for people."

      Winter feels Ferguson neglected to extend Wiley a proper duty of care. "Alan Wiley had not contributed in any shape or form to United only drawing and he cannot fight back. It won't happen but, if I was Alan, I'd be tempted to sue Sir Alex."

      Winter says he is "not a friend" of Wiley's but had considerable respect for him as a colleague. "I've trained with the guy and I know just how fit and professional he is," he said. "He's 49 now but he's still extremely fit. If he wasn't he wouldn't be getting a game, simple as that. Referees don't just have an annual fitness test which is pretty tough but they are continually assessed and re-assessed." All referees have ptis (personal training instructors) looking after them. Anyone not up to standard is dropped".

      The prospect of the Football Association charging Ferguson with disrepute does nothing to assuage Winter's anger. "What difference will it make?" he said. "What can they do to him give him a touchline ban and fine him. Fines don't hurt multi-millionaires."

      Adverse refereeing decisions might though. "Human nature's a funny thing," mused Winter. "Sir Alex might just find a few refereeing decisions going against him."

      Manchester United declined to comment tonight.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...es-jeff-winter
      Spot on that bit in bold.

      "Sir Alex" has to get done for this one.

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        #4
        Winter's right. But he's also right when he says that nothing the authorities are likely to do, will bother ferguson.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Reece View Post
          Spot on that bit in bold.

          "Sir Alex" has to get done for this one.
          The amount of people withiin the media who are afraid to call Ferguson out for this kind of behaviour is unbelievable. I think they are scared of him and scared he will cut off contact with them. He does this sort of thing time and time again yet as he is the great 'Sir' Alex he gets away with it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Slim View Post
            The amount of people withiin the media who are afraid to call Ferguson out for this kind of behaviour is unbelievable. I think they are scared of him and scared he will cut off contact with them. He does this sort of thing time and time again yet as he is the great 'Sir' Alex he gets away with it.
            Yet when Rafa points this out he is simply cracking up and having a rant

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              #7
              Originally posted by Reece View Post
              Yet when Rafa points this out he is simply cracking up and having a rant
              Exactly.

              I suppose as Ferguson has won so many titles he gets a bye ball, but his managerial record should not excuse his behaviour.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Slim View Post
                Exactly.

                I suppose as Ferguson has won so many titles he gets a bye ball, but his managerial record should not excuse his behaviour.
                Yep. Football biases aside, he really doesn't seem like a nice person at all, and I have no time for him.

                Sir Bobby Robson

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                  #9
                  Interesting that, and of course we know its is true. Stan Collymore was on Talksport last night and said that Fergie was not in the same league as Paisley, Shankly, Busby and the other greats because of this side of his character.... he said he has no class IIRC.

                  Fergie is a bully and has no grace - a dispicable old hypocritical senile cunt is how I will remember him.
                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tee View Post
                    Interesting that, and of course we know its is true. Stan Collymore was on Talksport last night and said that Fergie was not in the same league as Paisley, Shankly, Busby and the other greats because of this side of his character.... he said he has no class IIRC.
                    Didn't hear that from Collymore. However, I know this will be an unpopular opinion but I think he talks a lot of sense and I enjoy listening to him.

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                      #11
                      Well said Winter.

                      "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                      I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

                      FatTony 24/08/09

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                        #12
                        Thing with ferguson, is that when he wins or when things happen the way he wants them, he can be one of the nicest people - but it's all fake, because people's true colours come out when things arent going their way.

                        It's a bit like drogba, he can shake a rival's hand and swaps shirts etc when he wins - but when things go against him, you see the real drogba, as we saw after the barcelona game last season. Ferguson's the same. Cunt.

                        It's easy to be nice when everything's going perfectly for you.

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                          #13
                          Watching sky sports paper review yesterday morning (Monday) the presenter asked the reviewer (Paul McCarthy) why the tabloids & broad sheets hadn't reported what gin soak had said in more detail & as a top story.

                          His reply was basically that it had been reported on Sunday, so it wasn't a news story !!!! What a crock of ****, when Rafa makes waves it is reported for day's after.

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                            #14
                            i cant wait for the purple nosed cunt to die personally.
                            "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                            "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Harv View Post
                              i cant wait for the purple nosed cunt to die personally.

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