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    #46
    Originally posted by Ben_Itez View Post
    From the Guardian:


    Hull's patience runs out as Phil Brown becomes a victim of own bluster

    Promotion-winning coach's eccentric decisions had undermined his authority at the KC Stadium


    As an ardent fan of The Beach Boys, Phil Brown would probably agree that his tenure at Hull City took him on a journey from "Good Vibrations" to "God Only Knows". On paper the most successful manager in the club's history, Brown departs the KC Stadium as a widely ridiculed figure, arguably with his reputation in tatters. The consensus is that despite leading Hull into the Premier League for the first time two years ago and averting relegation last season, albeit narrowly, the 50-year-old will struggle to find a comparable post.

    If grabbing a microphone and belting out a version of Sloop John B minutes after results elsewhere reprieved Hull, who had just lost at home to Manchester United, from Championship football last May raised doubts about Brown, that solo was far from his strangest moment.

    Back in the autumn Hull's manager boasted to reporters about "sweet talking" a woman out of jumping off the Humber Bridge while leading his squad on a morale-boosting walk. Strangely no Hull player noticed any such exchange and the Humber Bridge Board, which monitors the crossing, has no record of the incident. When the Guardian subsequently put it to Brown that the episode had been a figment of his imagination, he looked distinctly sheepish, hung his head and eventually said: "No comment."

    By then Adam Pearson had just replaced Brown's good friend Paul Duffen as Hull's chairman and rumours mounted that defeat against Stoke City in an impending game at the KC would cost the manager his job. In the event Hull won 2-1 courtesy of Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink's stoppage‑time winner. As the stadium erupted in celebration, the chairman's face remained impassive. When a companion whispered something in his ear, Pearson shrugged. Body language can be hugely misleading but it hardly looked a vote of confidence. Indeed a relationship which would limp on for four more months was very much a marriage of convenience.

    Behind closed doors the chairman gave his manager an eviscerating lecture on the perils of ego and the benefits of humility. In response Brown stopped discussing his ambition to one day coach England and, extending an olive branch to players he had placed on a metaphorical "naughty step", repaired a plug he had furiously torn from the training ground's designer coffee machine.

    As a qualified electrician the task was second nature to this man of many parts who, during his years as an underrated lower division right-back, also ran a restaurant, Brown's Brasserie. Later the perma-tanned, always snazzily dressed Brown would make his name as the loyal assistant many believe was behind much of Sam Allardyce's success at Bolton Wanderers.

    Although a subsequent spell in charge of Derby County – a position secured after Sir Alex Ferguson, a long time admirer of his coaching skills, urged them to hire Brown – swiftly ended in dismissal, he re-emerged in Hull's backroom, taking the top job following Phil Parkinson's departure. After first warding off relegation, Brown then presided over that historic promotion to England's top tier and Hull's haul of 20 points from the first nine games of last season.

    It all seemed to go to his head and, with results deteriorating, there was the infamous half-time team-talk on the Eastlands pitch when Brown publicly berated his players during a Boxing Day 2008 defeat at Manchester City. Contrary to the party line, it did not endear a now somewhat manic figure to the squad. Even so, several first-team players privately acknowledged that, behind the bombast and bluster, there was an astute football brain.

    However Brown had already begun losing his nerve. Increasingly the pragmatic, cautious influence of Allardyce rather than the passing, expansionist football he had so enjoyed while playing for Bruce Rioch at Bolton informed Hull's gameplans. If he became disinclined to gamble on the pitch, his high-risk signing of the gifted but injury prone Jimmy Bullard for a club record £5m and £50,000-a-week in January 2009 backfired as the midfielder's troublesome knees betrayed him. By amplifying Pearson's misgivings, the newly fit Bullard's comedic public fight – it was witnessed by a Women's Institute march – with Nick Barmby in a Humberside park last week, hastened Brown's demise.

    By the time Saturday's home defeat to Arsenal came round, Hull's manager was in uncannily prophetic mood. "This is the start of a massively important era in my life," he declared in the match programme. "And a massively important era in the history of Hull City." Brown has never been prone to understatement but, for once, he did not exaggerate.


    So he made up the story about saving the woman from throwing herself off the Humber Bridge....how bizarre!

    **** me Fergie even decides who Derby should appoint at their manager now, obviously not another 'old boys brigade' with Fergie looking after fat Sam's chum.

    If he (Fergie) is that much of a fan of Brown's coaching why didn't/doesn't he offer him a job.

    Brown and Fergie are both pathetic, hypicritical (probably alcoholic) fools

    Sam Allardyce on the other hand is all of those things and a cunt of the highest order
    The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Bender View Post
      more likely from not brushing his teeth
      Hello mert.

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        #48
        They are looking at Avram Grant now

        Grant linked with Tigers post



        Sky Sports News understands Hull City want Portsmouth boss Avram Grant to fill the managerial vacancy at the KC Stadium.

        The Tigers are on the lookout for a new boss after chairman Adam Pearson decided to part company with Phil Brown on Monday, and Grant has reportedly been approached by the Tigers to take the role.

        The Israeli has previously stated that he is committed to his role with the troubled South Coast club.

        The two sides meet at Fratton Park on Saturday in a crucial relegation encounter at the foot of the Premier League table.

        Pompey are almost certain to be playing Championship football next season with a nine-point penalty for entering administration due to be handed down by the Premier League.

        Iain Dowie and Gary Megson emerged as the early favourites to take charge at the KC Stadium, however Sky Sports News now understands Grant is the club's preferred candidate.

        Brown was sacked after four successive defeats left the East Yorkshire club languishing in 19th in the table with nine games to go.

        http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...031117,00.html

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          #49
          Originally posted by Francis8 View Post
          Oliver Kay rekons Dowie is going to get the job
          Is the right answer

          So definately going down then.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Shanks View Post
            Is the right answer

            So definately going down then.
            Nearly as inspired as Brian Laws to Burnley

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              #51
              Well this is sure going to inspire the players!

              What an awful appointment, like mentioned above similar to Laws at Burnley which has unsurprisingly gone horribly wrong.

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                #52
                Iain Dowie confirmed as new Hull City manager


                Dowie also had spells in charge of Oldham and Coventry
                Iain Dowie has been confirmed as the new manager of struggling Hull City.
                LINK

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Chris View Post
                  Well this is sure going to inspire the players!

                  What an awful appointment, like mentioned above similar to Laws at Burnley which has unsurprisingly gone horribly wrong.
                  I think there is a difference between the two actually. Burnley lost a very good manager and were never likely to be able to attract anyone of equal quality and went for someone with a link to the club who they might hope would take them on for the long run. They are far too small a club to last long in the PL and I think they took a reasonable pragmatic view with one eye on their long term future. Hull have sacked a manager with a mixed record but experience keeping a team in the PL and replaced him with someone similar but with more failures on his record. Not sure what they think they will gain, so I guess they are going for a low price gamble (that and the fact the new Chairman seems to hate Brown so that may have been a factor).

                  That said a lot of people in the game seem to rate Dowie. Maybe we are all too keen to write managers off after a couple of bad runs.

                  To be honest the only team I want to escape the relegation dog fight is West Ham as they develop young players, play decent football and Zola seems like a nice guy. Even they are less easy to support since Gold and Sullivan took over.
                  "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                  -- William Blake

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                    #54
                    Interesting stat from Opta

                    Of all managers to have been in charge of at least 50 PL matches, only Mick McCarthy has a lower win % (14%) than Iain Dowie (18%)

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Shanks View Post
                      Is the right answer

                      So definately going down then.
                      It's almost as good an appointment as Brian Laws at Burnley!

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                        #56
                        All we need now is Bryan Robson back!

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          I think there is a difference between the two actually. Burnley lost a very good manager and were never likely to be able to attract anyone of equal quality and went for someone with a link to the club who they might hope would take them on for the long run. They are far too small a club to last long in the PL and I think they took a reasonable pragmatic view with one eye on their long term future. Hull have sacked a manager with a mixed record but experience keeping a team in the PL and replaced him with someone similar but with more failures on his record. Not sure what they think they will gain, so I guess they are going for a low price gamble (that and the fact the new Chairman seems to hate Brown so that may have been a factor).
                          I feel you sometimes undervalue the psychological element.





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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            #58
                            Another middle aged man bites the dust.

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                              #59
                              That's what happens.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                              May the Lord bless this post.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                                I feel you sometimes undervalue the psychological element.














                                A change is as good as a rest I suppose.
                                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                                -- William Blake

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