Man U's Debt

[JohnDoe]

We also have PIK debt.

[BigChief]

Pi kind?

Rewind

[paulc]

Was on SSN this morning that they may be selling their training ground and leasing it back?

[-V-]

Our owners should buy it through a 3rd party and then lease it to Man City

[Exiled_red]

Was on SSN this morning that they may be selling their training ground and leasing it back?

Who to the council? They always seem to bend over for the scum.

[Le Chef]

Who to the council? They always seem to bend over for the scum.

I doubt it - Probably Peel Investments or a finance co.

The figures for man utd include the sale of Ronaldo but I think someone has said that they don't include any of the buys suchas Valencia, etc, etc which would make the results look even worse.

The big problem with United and too ourselves a wee bit is the TV money is collective and shared equally. IMO, this is the reason the Yanks have become involved as the serious money would be in singular TV deals such as madrid and Barca.

[Exiled_red]

I doubt it - Probably Peel Investments or a finance co.

The figures for man utd include the sale of Ronaldo but I think someone has said that they don't include any of the buys suchas Valencia, etc, etc which would make the results look even worse.

The big problem with United and too ourselves a wee bit is the TV money is collective and shared equally. IMO, this is the reason the Yanks have become involved as the serious money would be in singular TV deals such as madrid and Barca.

I can't see that happening to be honest, as the majority of the Premiership clubs would have to agree and probably all but the top 4 clubs would be worse off, as it's the big clubs that have the financial muscle that brings in lucrative deals for the Premiership as a whole.

[BillobShaisley]

In the US, not only is the TV revenue shared but all merchandising too! Combined with wage caps, its a licence to print money. I think a few of them are struggling with the competitive nature and success dependent income of european sports models.

[Baracus]

In the US, not only is the TV revenue shared but all merchandising too! Combined with wage caps, its a licence to print money. I think a few of them are struggling with the competitive nature and success dependent income of european sports models.

Its the future of football IMO, and will lead to a more competitive league and comptetions across the leagues. Premier League football IMO just follows the NFL, from Monday Night Football, presentation to stats, merchandising nothing has been innovative

[BillobShaisley]

Can't see it happening while we maintain relegation. In the US its a franchise with guaranteed entry to all the competitions. Would I prefer a more competitive top division without promotion/relegation....no!

[Bender]

There now saying they will have to sell Old Trafford and their Training Ground Carrington

[Kinell]

There now saying they will have to sell Old Trafford and their Training Ground Carrington

[Tatterdemalion]

We also have PIK debt.

Don't believe we do actually. Not unless you count a standard secured loan as PIKs, in theory they are similar, but not the same thing.

[Tatterdemalion]

• David Conn: How the Glazers have milked United for millions




Avi, Bryan and Joel, three of Malcolm Glazer's five sons – he also has a daughter – in the stands at Old Trafford. Photograph: Mike Egerton/Empics/PA
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I bet the daughter is a real looker.

[pondus]

I bet the daughter is a real looker.