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    Originally posted by Icon View Post
    Does this mean SG will tell his emolyers if he's going to stay now?
    He'll be gone unless a good manager and new owners arrive.His desire to win more trophies will be alot stronger after this shambles.

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      England need to select young hungry players who will put a shift in!

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        Originally posted by IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST View Post
        He'll be gone unless a good manager and new owners arrive.His desire to win more trophies will be alot stronger after this shambles.
        On a tangent - do you still trust Rafa?
        To sort us out I mean...

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          Originally posted by Icon View Post
          On a tangent - do you still trust Rafa?
          To sort us out I mean...
          dave of mutilation

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            None of the players, Gerrard included seem to give a monkey's about England. Capello got it wrong and the players couldn't be arsed.

            They should all retire from international football now. But they won't then it'll be "let's put it behind us and try to win the Euros".

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              Absolute dog**** throughout, as always. Saves you right if you were expecting anything different
              Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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                They deserve more than ****ing booing for that! What a complete pile of **** those so called world class footballers are. Not one player in that england team is world class on their performances at the worlds biggest football tournament.

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                  Originally posted by IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST View Post
                  He'll be gone unless a good manager and new owners arrive.His desire to win more trophies will be alot stronger after this shambles.
                  I am not so sure that is correct. Even if he'd move to Real there is no guarantees that we would win any more trophies. Yes the probability would be greater but imo the one he would truly like to lift is not in Spain.
                  Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                    Originally posted by Icon View Post
                    On a tangent - do you still trust Rafa?
                    To sort us out I mean...
                    The second coming,he will return and it will be better,much better.

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                      Originally posted by cream View Post
                      Absolute dog**** throughout, as always. Saves you right if you were expecting anything different
                      Thought Beckham done an outstanding job on the bench........took his jacket off today.

                      Maybe the fans after the first game were right after all
                      "I will make the boys feel your support"
                      Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                        No passion, no fight, no ability to do even the basics. We'd have been better off bringing Stuart Pearce on.

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                          Originally posted by mostar View Post
                          I am not so sure that is correct. Even if he'd move to Real there is no guarantees that we would win any more trophies. Yes the probability would be greater but imo the one he would truly like to lift is not in Spain.
                          You forget who is in charge at Real?A REAL winner.Of course he would win trophies there.Also i know he wants to win the league title with Liverpool,but under current circumstances it's impossible.

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                            Originally posted by liverpooltj View Post
                            They deserve more than ****ing booing for that! What a complete pile of **** those so called world class footballers are. Not one player in that england team is world class on their performances at the worlds biggest football tournament.
                            Lynching maybe ?

                            Reminds me of that Simpsons episode where all of Springfield turn up to attack the plane when their football team arrives home
                            "I will make the boys feel your support"
                            Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                              England are an embarassment.Hang your heads in shame you englishmen.
                              I wanted England to go all the way and win it.Well i guess in 4 years time you can all claim once again this is it,you're going to win it.

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                                All this talk of passion, fight etc etc....is it really that?

                                Maybe, just maybe, english footballers just arent among the world's best?

                                After all, since 1990, england have only managed 1 semi final appearance, 2 quarter finals, 2 second round exits and 1 failure to qualify. Compare that the the record of Germany, Brazil etc. They're just good and england arent.

                                England have no record of doing well at major finals, so i dont know why people expect differently.

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