Semi-finals

[Harv]

Hardly effective???

Just the fact that he draws about 3 players onto him when he gets into these positions makes him effective. He's not that bad a defender either for an attacking fullback, just gets caught out every now and then if the other team can counter quickly.

He scores a lot of goals too.

[Harv]

Just remembered who would probably have been the Spanish LB now.

Antonio Puerta

[Pablo]

I can't believe someone likened Ramos to Johnson. I thought Johnson had an awful world cup and showed how inept he was (his positioning is awful and his attacking wasn't impressive either). Ramos is much better.

Not just someone Fredo, me!

You're being an idiot as always anyway, I likened them in style of play, not based on their World Cup performances you idiot.

Carra was also pretty **** by the way.

[anfieldanfield]

The dutch will win 2-0.

The Spanish will also progress.

Spain will win in the final.

I haven't been wrong all tournie, so there you go lads. You're welcome for the free cash.

[Shaggy]

Hardly took a genius to call those two semis .........and the Dutch didn't win 2-0.

[Mattshark]

Puyol is brilliant, the slating he gets on forums is preposterous.

Puyol was excellent last night

[lancinleeds]

Puyol was excellent last night

Man of the match for me

[PTP]

If spain win the final, i think they become the first team ever to lose their opening game and go on to win it

[Harv]

lets not go overboard. He didn't exactly have much to do. Xabi and Xavi were the keys

[lickedlollipop]

ah, they'll win this WC (i hope not, but ...)

[Mattshark]

lets not go overboard. He didn't exactly have much to do. Xabi and Xavi were the keys

I really don't think they were, Puyol got a lot of important challenges in (regarding Ramos btw, he was lucky not to give away a pen) and made sure he was in position to stop Germany breaking away.
Xabi had a lot shots, but he also gave the ball away more than usual.
Xavi a lot of nice short passing, but he spent most of the game having minimal impact.

[the rev leeroy brown]

ramos is the most overrated player on the planet, not much attacking play bar the stepovers where he trips at the nearest defender and dodgy in defence, comits a lot of unneccesary fouls.



I find these barca players in spains squad a bit frustrating at times, they over do things, which stops the natural flow of the game, now they get bailed out by the odd messi brilliance at barcelona but they look shaky here at the world cup, far from being all that great. plus i think spain play a too narrow game, which would be fine if the fullbacks contributed the width, but they don't, capdevilla is a defender more than an attacker and i've already made my point regarding ramos.

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ramos the most over rated player on the planet. what a stupid statement. pretty much shows you have no concept of football.

actually, you are on the wind up arent you?


cause if your not then **** me mate your thick.

[Maxiedge]

Ramos is frustrating. Has all the talent, is a pretty good defender, but thinks he's the dogs when he attacks but he should keep it simple sometimes.

Also, he can be extremely hot or cold. When we played them in Champions League recently at Anfield, I think I watched the worst performace from any individual in a football match. It was as if he'd taken a bung to let us win.

[Mattshark]

Ramos is frustrating. Has all the talent, is a pretty good defender, but thinks he's the dogs when he attacks but he should keep it simple sometimes.

Also, he can be extremely hot or cold. When we played them in Champions League recently at Anfield, I think I watched the worst performace from any individual in a football match. It was as if he'd taken a bung to let us win.

I thought he was poor last night too, Jansen got past him very easily quite a few times.

[SK]

ramos the most over rated player on the planet. what a stupid statement. pretty much shows you have no concept of football.

actually, you are on the wind up arent you?


cause if your not then **** me mate your thick.

coming from you i'll take that as a compliment

i've played football all my life(and some other sports aswell) so to say i have no concept in football...well i won't respond..

real payed what 30mil euros for him? overrated he is, average defender, rash in challenges, constantly exposed..how can that be 30mil worth?