Villa, Villa, Villa

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Dont know if there is any truth in this one

Schwarzer move to Arsenal back on, if Fulham complete deal for Friedel, a move that Randy Lerner is said to have approved.

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/08/09/2063197/fao-sulsteven-milner-transfer-and-dispute-with-randy-lerner

[Shaggy]

I've got something to break to you..........that isn't Sam Allardyce

[paulc]

Yeah, it's bollocks that they havent spent.

For that same 3 year period, only City and Spurs had a higher net spend than Villa. Not even Chelsea or the Mancs came close.

In fact, i might as well just post the figures...

Net spend between May 2007 and May 2010:

City - £262m
Spurs - £76m
Villa - £64m
Man Utd - £33m
Liverpool - £27m
Chelsea - £25m
Arsenal - net profit of £22m

crazy

[CJ]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...h-randy-lerner

it does look like most owners dont like managers to have so much power. Not many do and on the continent its even less. I wonder in sport usa are the people just coaches?

Managers will always want more money boards will always want to spend less or see results and these day almost instant results.

Still not seen anything that means Learner is a bad owner. ( i am not saying he isnt a bad owner just that this doesnt make him a bad owner)

[little dave hedgehog]

it does look like most owners dont like managers to have so much power. Not many do and on the continent its even less. I wonder in sport usa are the people just coaches?

Managers will always want more money boards will always want to spend less or see results and these day almost instant results.

Still not seen anything that means Learner is a bad owner. ( i am not saying he isnt a bad owner just that this doesnt make him a bad owner)

that's a good point and to my mind the answer is yes, although i don't claim to know a lot about the subject.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

I've got something to break to you..........that isn't Sam Allardyce

It's you,isn't it?
You're everywhere

[dom9]

it does look like most owners dont like managers to have so much power. Not many do and on the continent its even less. I wonder in sport usa are the people just coaches?

Managers will always want more money boards will always want to spend less or see results and these day almost instant results.

Still not seen anything that means Learner is a bad owner. ( i am not saying he isnt a bad owner just that this doesnt make him a bad owner)

Are you sure you don't want to caveat that post?

[CJ]

Are you sure you don't want to caveat that post?

what with?

its going to be really obvious isnt it and its going over my head

[TartanTerror]

that's a good point and to my mind the answer is yes, although i don't claim to know a lot about the subject.

Cannot speak for our other yank sports but football definately has a headcoach/general manager arrangment. The GM is responsible for making the deals for players while keeping an eye on the salary cap. The head coach does have some say in who is acquired but mostly states the type of player he needs to fit their particular scheme. Some of the more successful coaches (Bill Parcells is one that comes to mind) have a role that approaches that of a typical English/European style manager. Most American owners are loath to give one person that much power and as such is the exception rather than the rule. If a coach has a long history of success then they can usually negotiate more control over the draft and free agency process.

I am a Saints fan (grew up in New Orleans) and can tell you that the two most successful periods in Saints history also coincide with the two best GMs we had - Jim Finks and (currently) Micky Loomis.

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Shaggy stop it now.

TheBig_Sam I can still recognise and locate my very first pube. After all these years - and the arrival of thousands more - it's still my favourite.

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davekidd_people @rorysmith_tel McLeish. It'll be McLeish
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[Maxiedge]

O'Neill to takeover at Newcastle

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benlyt RT @SoccerByIves Bob Bradley trots out standard 'New challenges are a good thing' when asked about Aston Villa talk & if he's interested

[SB]

HE'LL BE BACK, just like a rash, you know it will be back