As well as for the UEFA Cup final, they smashed Manchester up when they played the Mancs in 2003. Made a mess of their ground too by all accounts.
Manchester United and Rangers step up security for Old Trafford match
• Clubs want Rangers fans to be held at Wigan's ground
• Police fear supporters will travel without tickets
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk
Tuesday 31 August 2010 22.00 BST
The threat of hooliganism when Manchester United play Rangers in the Champions League has led to security measures being implemented to force supporters of the Scottish club to the DW Stadium in Wigan as an official holding ground in the hours before kick-off.
The two clubs are so determined to avoid a mass invasion of Rangers fans into central Manchester they have asked Wigan Athletic for permission to use their ground for "catering and rest facilities" as the only stop-off point on the journey from Glasgow.
Wigan's stadium has also been designated as the official ticket-collection point before a police escort takes the supporters to Old Trafford in a convoy of buses. It will be one of the biggest security operations ever for a match at Old Trafford and has similarities to the measures that have been implemented in the notoriously sensitive matches between Millwall and Leeds United, when supporters have been taken to a service station on the M1 to collect their tickets under heavy police presence.
Rangers have been allocated 4,700 tickets and have stipulated that only registered travel-club members will be eligible to apply and that everyone who is successful must travel on official coaches, with no option but to adhere to the Wigan plan. "All fans will meet at the DW Stadium where they will then be transported to Old Trafford," Rangers said in a statement. "There will be no exceptions."
The club will run a campaign in the build-up to the match on 14 September aimed at discouraging fans from travelling independently. "Supporters without tickets are strongly advised not to travel."
The measures have been brought in after a series of meetings over the last few days involving both clubs, Greater Manchester Police, Strathclyde Police and supporters' group representatives, with the priority being to ensure there are as few Rangers fans in Manchester city centre as possible.
An estimated 150,000 fans invaded Manchester when the team reached the Uefa Cup final in 2008, and when a giant television screen showing the match crashed it led to several hours of rioting, causing hundreds of thousands of pounds' worth of damage. The then prime minister, Gordon Brown, branded the fans "a disgrace" and the first minister, Alex Salmond, described the violence as "shocking and unacceptable."
Two years on, the biggest fear of the police is that ticketless Rangers supporters will again travel in large numbers, and that the potential for trouble has been exacerbated because United's own hooligan element will be seeking revenge.
The fears are such that when Gary Neville, the United club captain, identified Rangers earlier this year as the opposition for his testimonial match the idea was vetoed by the police and Manchester City Council.
There are also concerns about a large number of English trouble-makers planning wide-scale problems when Sir Alex Ferguson's team travel to Ibrox on 24 November and officials from both clubs are expected to discuss the matter when Uefa host a security workshop for Champions League clubs in Vienna tomorrow.
United are facing a reduced ticket allocation for their Premier League game at Sunderland on 2 October because of problems with persistent standing when they have visited the Stadium of Light in previous seasons.
League rules stipulate that away supporters should be given a minimum 3,000 tickets but Sunderland successfully applied to reduce the number to 1,700 last season and are applying for the same again. This has become a recurring theme for United over the last few years, with several clubs including Bolton Wanderers, Middlesbrough and Aston Villa taking similar action.
Manchester United and Rangers step up security for Old Trafford match
• Clubs want Rangers fans to be held at Wigan's ground
• Police fear supporters will travel without tickets
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk
Tuesday 31 August 2010 22.00 BST
The threat of hooliganism when Manchester United play Rangers in the Champions League has led to security measures being implemented to force supporters of the Scottish club to the DW Stadium in Wigan as an official holding ground in the hours before kick-off.
The two clubs are so determined to avoid a mass invasion of Rangers fans into central Manchester they have asked Wigan Athletic for permission to use their ground for "catering and rest facilities" as the only stop-off point on the journey from Glasgow.
Wigan's stadium has also been designated as the official ticket-collection point before a police escort takes the supporters to Old Trafford in a convoy of buses. It will be one of the biggest security operations ever for a match at Old Trafford and has similarities to the measures that have been implemented in the notoriously sensitive matches between Millwall and Leeds United, when supporters have been taken to a service station on the M1 to collect their tickets under heavy police presence.
Rangers have been allocated 4,700 tickets and have stipulated that only registered travel-club members will be eligible to apply and that everyone who is successful must travel on official coaches, with no option but to adhere to the Wigan plan. "All fans will meet at the DW Stadium where they will then be transported to Old Trafford," Rangers said in a statement. "There will be no exceptions."
The club will run a campaign in the build-up to the match on 14 September aimed at discouraging fans from travelling independently. "Supporters without tickets are strongly advised not to travel."
The measures have been brought in after a series of meetings over the last few days involving both clubs, Greater Manchester Police, Strathclyde Police and supporters' group representatives, with the priority being to ensure there are as few Rangers fans in Manchester city centre as possible.
An estimated 150,000 fans invaded Manchester when the team reached the Uefa Cup final in 2008, and when a giant television screen showing the match crashed it led to several hours of rioting, causing hundreds of thousands of pounds' worth of damage. The then prime minister, Gordon Brown, branded the fans "a disgrace" and the first minister, Alex Salmond, described the violence as "shocking and unacceptable."
Two years on, the biggest fear of the police is that ticketless Rangers supporters will again travel in large numbers, and that the potential for trouble has been exacerbated because United's own hooligan element will be seeking revenge.
The fears are such that when Gary Neville, the United club captain, identified Rangers earlier this year as the opposition for his testimonial match the idea was vetoed by the police and Manchester City Council.
There are also concerns about a large number of English trouble-makers planning wide-scale problems when Sir Alex Ferguson's team travel to Ibrox on 24 November and officials from both clubs are expected to discuss the matter when Uefa host a security workshop for Champions League clubs in Vienna tomorrow.
United are facing a reduced ticket allocation for their Premier League game at Sunderland on 2 October because of problems with persistent standing when they have visited the Stadium of Light in previous seasons.
League rules stipulate that away supporters should be given a minimum 3,000 tickets but Sunderland successfully applied to reduce the number to 1,700 last season and are applying for the same again. This has become a recurring theme for United over the last few years, with several clubs including Bolton Wanderers, Middlesbrough and Aston Villa taking similar action.
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