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In fairness to him, he unfortunate to be managing a championship club! He did take Bolton to europe and got hold of some class players, things got even worse for Newcastle after he was sacked, eventuallygot relegated after he got the sac getting relegated, and Blackburn just missed out on being relegated after being 7th place when he was sacked!! He might have alot of haters, but i dont think you can argue about his record!!
In fairness to him, he unfortunate to be managing a championship club! He did take Bolton to europe and got hold of some class players, things got even worse for Newcastle after he was sacked, eventuallygot relegated after he got the sac getting relegated, and Blackburn just missed out on being relegated after being 7th place when he was sacked!! He might have alot of haters, but i dont think you can argue about his record!!
I think you're really missing the point. He's a Cunt!
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
In fairness to him, he unfortunate to be managing a championship club! He did take Bolton to europe and got hold of some class players, things got even worse for Newcastle after he was sacked, eventuallygot relegated after he got the sac getting relegated, and Blackburn just missed out on being relegated after being 7th place when he was sacked!! He might have alot of haters, but i dont think you can argue about his record!!
He should have stayed at Bolton. The problem is his ego, he seems to thinks that he deserves a bigger job, hence his bitterness and constant attacks on foreign managers when they get the jobs at top 4 clubs or the national team job. He is probably one of the best English managers and has been consistently over his time in management, the problem is there aren't many good English managers out there.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
He should have stayed at Bolton. The problem is his ego, he seems to thinks that he deserves a bigger job, hence his bitterness and constant attacks on foreign managers when they get the jobs at top 4 clubs or the national team job. He is probably one of the best English managers and has been consistently over his time in management, the problem is there aren't many good English managers out there.
He had a job for life at Bolton. It was his level, he built a decent team there and then he decided that he was too good for them.
He should have stayed at Bolton. The problem is his ego, he seems to thinks that he deserves a bigger job, hence his bitterness and constant attacks on foreign managers when they get the jobs at top 4 clubs or the national team job. He is probably one of the best English managers and has been consistently over his time in management, the problem is there aren't many good English managers out there.
I agree about his ego, but I think he was right to try and advance himself. He has Mourinho's gob****e personality with neither the wit nor success to back it up.
I think the lack of a strong assistant since a lot of his previous staff have gone off to be managers has had an impact too. he has certainly become less innovative recently.
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
I agree about his ego, but I think he was right to try and advance himself. He has Mourinho's gob****e personality with neither the wit nor success to back it up.
I think the lack of a strong assistant since a lot of his previous staff have gone off to be managers has had an impact too. he has certainly become less innovative recently.
That's fair enough, and I do agree he was right to look to move on, the problem for me was it was never going to work out at Newcastle for him. He left Bolton for a Newcastle side that were in a worse position than Bolton, and he was never suited to them as a club. To me it looked like he left Bolton for the first decent 'bigger club' that came along, he should have waited until the job at a club that would be more accepting of his methods became avaliable. Someone like Villa or Spurs would have been better for him IMO.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
That's fair enough, and I do agree he was right to look to move on, the problem for me was it was never going to work out at Newcastle for him. He left Bolton for a Newcastle side that were in a worse position than Bolton, and he was never suited to them as a club. To me it looked like he left Bolton for the first decent 'bigger club' that came along, he should have waited until the job at a club that would be more accepting of his methods became avaliable. Someone like Villa or Spurs would have been better for him IMO.
I think Spurs would have been as bad a fit as Newcastle really. If he had toned down his public pronouncements I think he would have been okay at Newcastle. The problem for him was as much about the boardroom as it was on the pitch. It was a gamble but I think he had to take it. There didn't look to be much chance of other openings at the time and if it had worked out at Newcastle then it would have been seen as a bigger achievement anyway.
If he hadn't taken an opportunity like that he would have forever been criticised for not leaving his comfort zone.
It'll be interesting to see how the Hammers fans take to him.
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
West Ham boss Sam Allardyce has accused former Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher of destroying homegrown football talent.
The Hammers manager says Thatcher's Tories "undermined the game" by stopping teachers' overtime for taking extra sports lessons after school.
He said: "Thatcher killed football, no doubt about it.
"Since Margaret Thatcher stopped teachers being paid extra money for coaching sports after school, all sporting activities have diminished on a competitive basis."
Allardyce said the Tories' policy has produced "a lesser quality of players" and "unhealthy" kids.
He said: "This was a working class game but it's only at private schools where the children get the sports opportunities I had - and even then a lot of them don't play football, it's mainly rugby.
"Despite putting in place all sorts of advanced academy systems at clubs we are only producing half the players the school system used to.
"Our [West Ham] youth trainer, Tony Carr, is fighting to find the next Ferdinands and Lampards with one hand tied behind his back."
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