Ian Holloway

[fah-q]

there already is a negative impact on the results. Witness the drawn games at home, 1 may be a blip but its been successive league games.

[Shaggy]

there already is a negative impact on the results. Witness the drawn games at home, 1 may be a blip but its been successive league games.

It's nearly November and they haven't won an away game yet.

[Chrono]

I wouldn't say that Man U are failing this season.

And a large part of that is Rooney playing like ****.

[JHP]

err, how many months after Owen leaving did we win the Champions League?

I think it was 9

[Craig_H]

My point being that until there is a negative impact on results then how does any of this even come in to his thinking? Say this year they finish 4th, get knocked out the CL early and then sell Nani then I would totally understand it but I don't think it makes any difference who you sell while you are still competitive. He may or may not have a point but at the moment he is without a doubt a major reason for any failures right about now.

He wants City money, that's fine but he is trying to play it like a martyr.

He's using a bit of foresight - and his idea of what is likely to happen, is spot on.

[malg]

I think he thinks that things are WRONG very very WRONG, or I could have got it the wrong way and maybe he thinks that Rooney leaving is very WRONG WRONG WRONG I gues I could go on about it but it could be WRONG to do so.

[Craig_H]

there already is a negative impact on the results. Witness the drawn games at home, 1 may be a blip but its been successive league games.

It's evident already. Previously, they would have games where they played poorly, but they had 3-4 class individuals who would invariably pull something out of the hat and win the game for them.

Those individuals are becoming less and less.

[Shaggy]

I think he thinks that things are WRONG very very WRONG, or I could have got it the wrong way and maybe he thinks that Rooney leaving is very WRONG WRONG WRONG I gues I could go on about it but it could be WRONG to do so.

You're WRONG!

[Baracus]

Wong! Wong wong!

[Pablo]

He's a ****ing hypocrite. Do you really think he'd have sat there and reacted like that if it was, say, Torres or Fabregas doing the same thing? Like **** he would. Like everyone else he's kissing Ferguson's arse, simple as that.

Exactamundo! I had this exact same conversation with my mum , and used Wenger and Fabregas as the example then too!

[Chrono]

He's using a bit of foresight - and his idea of what is likely to happen, is spot on.

It's total guess work and like I said before he has to take responsibility for some of that. He also sacked Everton off to go to the mancs but BEFORE anything negative has ever occured he is packing his bags for a phat middle eastern pay cheque BEFORE City have won anything.

It's ludicrously presumptuous to leave a very very very succesful manager and club for the new rich kids on the block that have so far won nothing.

[Shaggy]

It's also presumptuous to assume he's going to City

[Neil Young]

I find it faintly amusing that Holloway should be lambasting the authorities for the way the game is and how players can hold the clubs to ransom while standing in front of a sign advertising wonga.com. The higher levels of professional football are little more than a prostitution racket and he's now as much a part of it as anyone.

[Shaggy]

I find it faintly amusing that Holloway should be lambasting the authorities for the way the game is and how players can hold the clubs to ransom while standing in front of a sign advertising wonga.com. The higher levels of professional football are little more than a prostitution racket and he's now as much a part of it as anyone.

wonga.com

[Chrono]

I find it faintly amusing that Holloway should be lambasting the authorities for the way the game is and how players can hold the clubs to ransom while standing in front of a sign advertising wonga.com. The higher levels of professional football are little more than a prostitution racket and he's now as much a part of it as anyone.

Very good point.