Premiership loans.

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Should Loans between premiership clubs be banned?

Just looking at the Sturridge example: Chelsea send him to Bolton, He can play against Chelsea's Rivals and is obviously a lot better than anything else they have there so definitely makes them stronger......Yet cant play against CHelsea?

Effectively that goal he 'scored for Bolton' has given Chelsea the push they need for second. Gives them an unfair advantage.

[dom9]

You could argue that Sturridge has been the better signing than Torres, and that Chelsea made a mistake.

So no. It's all a gamble.

[dww]

Should Loans between premiership clubs be banned?

Just looking at the Sturridge example: Chelsea send him to Bolton, He can play against Chelsea's Rivals and is obviously a lot better than anything else they have there so definitely makes them stronger......Yet cant play against CHelsea?

Effectively that goal he 'scored for Bolton' has given Chelsea the push they need for second. Gives them an unfair advantage.

I think the fact that it can improve the player and the team they go to strengthens the league/English football. On the other hand I do see your point that it can give an unfair advantage in terms depending on how things pan out. On balance though I'm inclined to agree with Dom that it is a gamble and not a big problem.

If in future finances become tighter for some PL clubs then the situation might have to be reviewed as if they had more than one player from a club it would be a real problem. Also rules on the terms of loans would be a good idea (i.e. to prevent Fergie doing what he did to Preston to a team in the PL).

[MrMichael]

I don't think it should be allowed really and fifa / uefa should stop it happening in any league. Same as co-ownership and some of the other shonky things that thankfully haven't really made their way into this country.

Loans should only ever be possible between different national leagues, or different tiers within the same nation. Otherwise it is open to all sorts of potential abuse and unfair situations. It may not always work out like that, but the possibility of one team being able to strengthen another team in the same league, perhaps based on good relations of the two managers etc, at no financial burden etc.... well, there's just something not right about it imo.

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I think the fact that it can improve the player and the team they go to strengthens the league/English football. On the other hand I do see your point that it can give an unfair advantage in terms depending on how things pan out. On balance though I'm inclined to agree with Dom that it is a gamble and not a big problem.

If in future finances become tighter for some PL clubs then the situation might have to be reviewed as if they had more than one player from a club it would be a real problem. Also rules on the terms of loans would be a good idea (i.e. to prevent Fergie doing what he did to Preston to a team in the PL).

is it not a gamble only the rich can afford?

[dww]

is it not a gamble only the rich can afford?

Yes but so is buying Torres for £50m. There is no point pretending that the PL is a level playing ground. If anything this gives progressive managers from less well off teams the chance to have better young players at their disposal (see Bolton with Wilshere last season). If the likes of Stoke were competing for the PL then it might be a stronger argument, but they aren't.

[Exiled_red]

It's an interesting question, the system obviously favours the big clubs, as they can sign alot of young talent and not give them games, but loan them out to keep them happy and reap the rewards later.

If you weren't to allow loans between clubs in the same leagues you could argue that the players would probably request moves to lower clubs in an attempt to get regular football, strengthening the league (as the spread of good players would be more even than at present). On the other hand you could argue that such a system forces young players to leave big clubs in order to get experience. Personally I think that the FA allow loans between Premiership clubs because it aids the development of young players the majority of which will be English and will help the national team.