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    #16
    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    Barca start away at Malaga, should be some game that.
    Super start to the season that. Cannot wait.
    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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      #17
      MADRID - Josu Urrutia was voted in as the new president of Athletic Bilbao on Thursday and is set to appoint Marcelo Bielsa as the Spanish club's coach for next season.

      The 43-year-old former player and team captain defeated incumbent Fernando Garcia Macua, scooping 53.36 percent of the votes cast by club members, the Basque side said on their website.

      Urrutia campaigned with a commitment from Bielsa, who coached Chile at the World Cup finals in South Africa last year, and the Argentine will be appointed to replace Joaquin Caparros.

      Caparros had coached the side for the four years of Garcia Macua's presidency and his contract expired at the end of June.

      Bilbao are one of only four clubs in La Liga, along with Barcelona, Real Madrid and Osasuna, who are owned by the club members (socios), and who get to elect their president every four years.

      They have around 35,000 socios and said there had been a record turnout at the polls.

      Bilbao are famous for only fielding players of Basque origin and along with Real and Barca are the only clubs never to have been relegated from Spain's top division.

      Under Caparros, they finished sixth in La Liga last May and qualified for next season's Europa League.

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        #18
        Malaga bid €35m offer for Inter's Wesley Sneijder - Ernesto Bronzetti
        The free-spending Spanish club are believed to have scheduled talks with the Netherlands international's agent for Thursday

        Transfer consultant Ernesto Bronzetti says he has been informed that Malaga have offered €35 million for Inter midfielder Wesley Sneijder.

        The Dutchman's future with the 2010 Champions League winners has been the subject of intense speculation in recent weeks, following an indifferent season in Milan.

        Manchester United have been touted as frontunners in the race to sign Sneijder, but Bronzetti claims he has been told that cash-rich Malaga are looking to pull out all stops in a bid to land the the former Ajax star.

        "A friend of mine who has a restaurant chain, including one near Malaga which is run by his brother, confirmed to me that he learned from Malaga's executives they had made an offer of €35m for Sneijder," Bronzetti told Sky Sport24.

        "He told me that tonight, there will be another meeting in this restaurant, located four to five kilometres outside Malaga, and this time the player's agent should be present."

        Earlier in the week, Inter coach Gian Piero Gasperini admitted Sneijder could leave the club in the summer.

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          #19
          I remember mentioning him back when Rafa was sacked

          Will be interesting to see how he does this coming season.


          MARCELO BIELSA: THE NEW RAYNALD DENOUEIX?

          by Chris McDonald

          The arrival of a certain Argentine in the Basque country has millions drooling in anticipation. Chris McDonald is here to tell you why.

          One of my favourite sides of the 21st century so far have been French coach Raynald Denoueix’s Real Sociedad team of 2002-03, who pushed Real Madrid to the last weekend of the season in the race for the La Liga title. That season the Basque club surprised all of Spain – not only with their league performance, having previously been relegation fodder, but with their brave attacking football. And though they ultimately fell short of the last great side of the original Galáctico era, the team of Kovačević, Nihat, De Pedro, Karpin and Xabi Alonso is fondly remembered, having remained unbeaten at the Anoeta all season (seeing off Madrid and Barcelona 4-2 and 2-1 respectively).

          Though I doubt fans of Athletic Bilbao would welcome comparisons to La Real, this season could see their club being taken to the hearts of neutrals as their neighbour’s class of 2003 were. The similarities go beyond geographic proximity. Like the San Sebastián club, Bilbao’s squad contains a number of highly talented individual players: Fernando Llorente, the much-fancied target man – excellent in the air, adept on the deck; defensive midfielder Javi Martínez and teenage winger Iker Muniain, both fresh from impressing as Spain won the U-21 European Championship; and Andoni Iraola, for many one of the best full-backs in Spain.

          But it is also with the coaches where themes overlap. Like Denoueix was, new Bilbao coach Marcelo Bielsa is practically a newcomer to the Spanish league (having only spent a few months at Espanyol in 1998). And like Denoueix’s Real Sociedad, Bielsa’s sides favour bold attacking football, regardless of opposition. Both managers also have a touch of enigma about them. Denoueix wound up arriving at Real Sociedad by following a title-winning season at Nantes with a disappointing one which resulted in the sack. The season after La Real’s La Liga runners-up spot they finished 15th, and Denoueix all-but disappeared from the game following his departure from the club.

          Even if Marcelo Bielsa has yet to perform any sort of disappearing trick, he does remain fascinating – both as a coach and person. He has in the past refused to grant exclusive interviews, taking the view that no single media outlet should receive preferential treatment. Then there is his famous ‘El Loco’ touchline persona (the prospect of him and Valencia’s Unai Emery going bonkers alongside each other during a game can’t help but raise a smile) and his willingness to field every single question at press conferences (a side-effect of his egalitarian approach to the press, which at times has led to three or four hour Q&A sessions).

          Even in the face of a curious relationship with the media, Bielsa is peculiarly honest as far as football coaches go. Consider the following post-match quote: “I don’t have the custom of speaking about referees, but on the subject of the ref’s performance today I’d like to say in respect of my expulsion he was quite correct, because I complained in an ill-mannered form.”

          This was Bielsa speaking after Argentina’s 3-0 defeat to Colombia in the 1999 Copa América – a match in which Martin Palermo missed a hat-trick of penalties, Javier Zanetti was sent off, and the coach himself was sent to the stands. Colombia had been awarded two penalties – one converted, one saved – and Zanetti’s sending off had turned the tide against Bielsa’s side. Could you imagine famed responsibility-dodger José Mourinho being so contrite in the same circumstances?

          The perma-tracksuited coach has spent a lifetime going against the tide and defying expectations. Forgoing the career in public office his siblings have enjoyed, he pursued a career as a player only to retire at 25, subsequently qualifying as a PE teacher before turning his hand to coaching. Even within football he has often confounded people, choosing to support and play for Newell’s Old Boys instead of his father’s great passion, rivals Rosario Central. When his Argentina side qualified for the 2002 World Cup having only lost a single match in qualifying (away to Brazil), they did so with a particularly un-Argentinian disciplinary record.

          The coach’s insistence on fair play wasn’t the only uncharacteristic thing about that Argentina team. Critics in his homeland felt that the national team’s move away from the Argentine game’s traditional 4-3-1-2 formation, and the rolling rhythms of its enganche-orchestrated style of play, towards a dynamic, high-pressing 3-3-1-3 was an attempt to make the side more European in style. Despite Argentina’s excellent performances in qualifying, Bielsa still found himself under fire in a country that prides itself on its footballing identity.

          That they then crashed out of the World Cup in the first round was unfortunate. But it must have been especially galling to see fierce rivals Brazil win the tournament after adopting two variations of Bielsa’s formation (the 3-3-1-3 became a more solid 3-4-3 when attacking midfielder Juninho was sacrificed for Kleberson in the tournament’s later rounds). Brazil coach Luis Felipe Scolari had lifted the system wholesale from Bielsa’s side when tasked with rescuing his country’s ailing qualification campaign. And unlike many of the world football powerhouses who struggled in Japan and Korea after a long European season, Brazil’s squad was much fresher when the finals came around – the returning Ronaldo famously taking the golden boot. By contrast, though, fatigue was a huge factor in Argentina’s failure.

          Bielsa’s 3-3-1-3 system, which he later transferred to Chile for the 2010 World Cup, and is expected to do likewise with Bilbao, is predicated upon extreme physical fitness in order for the team to play at the high tempo required. Off the ball, the team presses aggressively, high up the pitch – well into their opponents’ half, in a style not dissimilar to Pep Guardiola’s Barcelona. The aim is to win the ball as close to the opposition’s goal as possible, and attack directly, in numbers and at pace. At the 2002 World Cup in the humidity of the Far East, a leg-weary Argentina squad were simply unable to implement this game plan as effectively as a younger Chile side managed eight years later.

          But despite Bielsa’s relative successes at international level (Olympic winner and Copa América runner-up in 2004), it’s a commonly-held belief that sporadic international get-togethers don’t afford particularly detail-focused coaches the chance to fully implement their methods. A return to club-level coaching with Bilbao will allow the Argentine to drum his ideas into a talented squad of players on a daily basis.

          As well as obsessively collecting football videos and sometimes choosing formations based on his pacing out the width of the pitch before a match, Bielsa has been known to train players in different positions at different times to work on specifics relating to their roles. Roberto Ayala, who played under the similarly minutiae-obsessed Rafael Benítez at Valencia, calls him “one of the people I’ve learned most from during my career”. That ‘El Loco’ is now being afforded the chance to fully implement his footballing philosophy at a European club is cause for great excitement.

          A Bielsa-led Athletic Bilbao side going hell for leather against the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid will be a fantastic spectacle. Of course, the financial imbalances of Spanish football and smarter top-level management at Barca and Madrid in recent years means Bilbao have little chance of competing for the title as Real Sociedad did eight years ago. But like Villarreal (a mirror of Bielsa’s Argentina in terms of philosophy – a South Americanised European team) they will entertain all lovers of good attacking football and should be a good bet to push for a Champions League spot.

          Sevilla’s Chilean midfielder Gary Medel recently hailed the impact the coach’s philosophy had on his homeland: “Marcelo has changed the outlook of the Chilean footballer. He made us think positively, always look for the win and chase games. Bielsa has not just been an influential coach for me, but for all of Chilean football.” Now we can look forward to the prospect of him having the same kind of influence in Euskadi.

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            #20
            Real Madrid v Barcelona tonight in 1st leg of spanish super cup
            9pm sky sports 1

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              #21
              Got to think this is massive for Real and far more important for them even though its just the Super Cup.

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                #22
                Barca rumoured to be picking a very strong team. Seeing as the USPGA is so ****ing **** I think I'll watch this tonight.
                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                  #23
                  I was expecting nothing else but a strong team. They will want to win everything next season.

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                    #24
                    barcastuff barcastuff
                    Barcelona line-up (official): Valdes - Alves Mascherano Abidal Adriano - Thiago Keita Iniesta - Alexis Messi Villa #fcblive
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      #25
                      Pretty strong but if Real cant beat that then they may aswell give up trying any more this season.

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                        #26
                        Resting pique and puyol?

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                          #27
                          Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho, Marcelo, Alonso, Khedira, Di María, Özil, C. Ronaldo y Benzema #fcblive
                          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                            #28
                            Spanish Super Cup is played over 2 legs isnt it?

                            When's the 2nd leg?

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                              #29
                              madrid make a good start they are fighting for their boss

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                                #30
                                Mashcerano at centerback?

                                He's not disciplined enough to play there, also its a complete waste of his talents.

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