La Liga 2011-12

[Neil Young]

I actually don't have a clue mate. I never watch the news. Barely watch TV or read papers. I don't know the first thing about politics. I know the conservatives/tories or whatever they are called are in charge. But I couldn't tell you who the Prime Minister is by name (I know what he looks like).

Fair enough of course but I must admit I don't get it at all. I can see it's boring and we have no control over it but I still think it's important. These f*ckers are stealing from us.

For instance, the government has just announced a plan to subsidise solar power generation. This sounds like a good thing. But the way it's organised it's just a massive payout to power companies and to rich individuals who can afford to install solar panels in their homes. You and I and everyone else here are paying the wealthy to generate power for nothing.

We can change it if enough of us get together and make them stop. But we don't.

[Fredo]

Surely if it's subsidised it's to the benefit of the less wealthy?

[Neil Young]

Surely if it's subsidised it's to the benefit of the less wealthy?

No, Bogbrush. The subsidy comes out of government income (i.e. us, not wealthy tax avoiders). It goes to power companies for their solar power generation and to houseowners who install the technology. The technology is expensive and therefore not affordable to many, even though it might save money in the long-term, thanks to the subsidy. So the people who install them are the relatively few who can afford to do so.

Now who do you think that is? People with a lot of money or people who don't have a lot of money?

[Fredo]

I thought the subsidy was meant to reduce those prices but I get what you mean. Thanks for that explanation sac a puces.

[Neil Young]

You're welcome.

By the way, many tax avoiders are ex-pats.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

As a portest you should go piss on 10 downing street ebery morning.

[yamiedo]

I'm pretty sure he used the AC Milan team of that late 80's as his benchmark of he wanted his teams to play

Also before Barca and AC Milan, were "The Lisbon Lions". Celtic team of 67' who won the European Cup. The players, were all born within a 30-mile radius of Parkhead. That is a pretty astonishing feat.

[saj]

Also before Barca and AC Milan, were "The Lisbon Lions". Celtic team of 67' who won the European Cup. The players, were all born within a 30-mile radius of Parkhead. That is a pretty astonishing feat.

Different times my friend. Football has evolved and I'm pretty sure it was pretty common with a lot of teams back in the day. What's astonishing is how Barca are managing to do that now, since around the turn of the millennium. They used to buy a lot of their star players (although not pay the amount that Real did/do for players). What Ajax achieved in the Mid 90's was pretty special too - some of those players are still around now

[Shaggy]

Barca have blown a two goal lead, 2-2 now at Sociedad.

[Shaggy]

Looks like a torn hamstring for Alexis Sanchez.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

did it finish 2-2

Unbelievable barca fook up my coupon
chelsea
barcelona
man utd
dortmund and a couple of other teams

[McDermotX]

Seriously, the ref is gonna put a stop to this match at HT !!

5-0 after 40mins.....could be 10 easily

[Mostar]

40 minutes in and Barca is 5-0 over Osasuna

[BringbackBiscan]

Who got the goals?

[Mostar]

Messi twice, Cesc, Villa and OG