Insua

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

When does his contract expire? I thought people on here said it was this summer?

[McDermotX]

It depends on available options I wouldn't want him to be our first choice, but he would be a useful back up.

this.......although I suspect he will be moving on

Last season I wanted a quality LB to come in and Insua could continue to learn his trade as backup, as there is potential there, but it desperately needs discipline.



We ****ed up on both counts with Roy.


Edit: Speaking of ****ups....any sign of the PFK back ?

[el matador]

i did criticise him especially 1 v 1s and his all round positioning. he's a year older and hopefully he can work hard with the coaches and get himself back in the first team. theres no point chucking jack robinson in at the deep and and hopefully insua can play a part.

i suppose if anyone can sort him out its steve clarke who was a full back himself. if it works its best part of 10m saved.

[Assassin]

Good to see Insua back. I felt he was got too much crititism. It will be interesting to see if Clarke can improve him......time will tell

[JohnDoe]

Will be interesting to see if he gets a chance. Maybe he can do a Spearing.

[Kopite Kymraeg]

Not one to sit on the fence but he was a ****e defender! On the other hand I didn't mind his attacking runs either. I definitely saw plenty of talent when he played for us and I suppose after my u-turn on Lucas (I hated his guts!); I'll always be willing to give our players the benefit of the doubt. God I'm forever the hopeless optimist.

[RedReet]

Not one to sit on the fence but he was a ****e defender! On the other hand I didn't mind his attacking runs either. I definitely saw plenty of talent when he played for us and I suppose after my u-turn on Lucas (I hated his guts!); I'll always be willing to give our players the benefit of the doubt. God I'm forever the hopeless optimist.

I promise this will be my only post on the subject, as I don’t want this thread to get sidetracked and don’t want to dwell too much on the subject.

But that sort of thing I just can’t get my head round, with any player. PFK and Poulsen I don’t rate at all, but they always showed a good attitude (if you excuse PFK’s Ma), so I wish them all the best. I just don’t understand how anyone can ‘hate’ a player of ours, no less one who has always maintained a great level of dignity under difficult circumstances and been a model pro from the offset.

Craig, you always go into hysterics when people say things like ‘Lucas haters’ or ‘Kuyt haters’, and although in this instance it might just be a poor choice of words, in my experiences there have been plenty.

[Kopite Kymraeg]

Hate!

I agree HATE is a very strong word! "I thought (at the time) that he was not the right type of player for our club", would have probably been more apt. I was merely trying to allude to my erroneous prejudiced LFC fan ways. We're all maturing every day as LFC fans aren't we? So I apologise for referring to myself as a Lucas Hater; and I am now definitely part of the "Give our boys a chance brigade"

[SB]

Good to see Insua back. I felt he was got too much crititism. It will be interesting to see if Clarke can improve him......time will tell

He's got age on his side so here's hoping Clarky can help him !

[Shaggy]

JimBoardman Jim Boardman
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@pauledwards1973 Insua's contract was updated in some way on 27/11/09 (page 2 of this PDF - j.mp/pfou15).

Here's a clickable link: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandR...ember%2009.pdf

[frank the tank]

he's better than that useless wank that goes by the name of Konchesky.....he was pure toilet and considering that we paid 3m plus 2 up and coming youngsters, we got rightly focked over......

I think Insua is a good enough player and as people have said, under a good manager he could thrive - look at Robinson and Flanagan. When they were all coming through initially, Insua was as highly regarded as those Brazilian twins at the scum.....

The problem with Insua is he got thrown into the deep end and it ****ed up his development - whereas we should have been easing him into the side, playing against lower league opposition and making sub appearances, he was actually playing every week in a team that was under big pressure with a civil war within the club in the background........

who knows, with Kelly and Flanagan able to play right back - this means that Glen can sometimes play left back - as can Aurelio......as can agger.........as can Robinson..........as can Insua..........although we don't have a top top top left back, i think we should only fill this position if a top top LB becomes available (Baines.....)

[little dave hedgehog]

Here's a clickable link: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandR...ember%2009.pdf

erm...ok.

[Arn]

Not one to sit on the fence but he was a ****e defender! On the other hand I didn't mind his attacking runs either. I definitely saw plenty of talent when he played for us and I suppose after my u-turn on Lucas (I hated his guts!); I'll always be willing to give our players the benefit of the doubt. God I'm forever the hopeless optimist.

I think most of the strong criticism comes from people like you that saw that he made defensive mistakes. The problem as I see it is that you and many others don't really understand that he is an attacking fullback and not a defensive one.

His job was to create width in attack as much as it was defending his part of the left side. The manager wanted it that way. He wanted attacking fullbacks like Insua, Johnson and Aurelio. He wanted the defensive midfielders and the central defenders to cover when the fullbacks attacked. He wanted the attacking player on the left/right to cover when the fullbacks attacked.

Kuyt for example is excellent doing it. Probably a big part of the reason to why Rafa moved him out wide on the right. He could by that way get the best out of Johnson. Then you look at our left side. No Kuyt type of player, no Mascherano that covered on the right side and even played right fullback a few times. Carragher was also covering the right side.

Compare our right and left side when it comes down to defending.

Carragher, Johnson, Mascherano and Kuyt. That is the right side.

Skrtel/Agger, Insua, Lucas, Benayoun/Riera. That is the left side.

Now you start to see a big difference. Now you are starting to see the whole picture and not just a part of it. Suddenly you see how strong our right side was compared to our left.

Defending isn't only down to one player, it is a team game and that left side wasn't balanced at all. It wasn't strong enough neither in attack or defence. Our right side was probably the best balanced in the league.

The left side didn't as I said have a Kuyt type of player that could help out the left fullback when he attacked. It didn't had a strong enough left sided central defender when Agger was out injured.

We all know that Skrtel's positional sense isn't the best around. That makes a big difference when it comes down to helping out an attacking fullback.

Insua is a very good attacking fullback. If Kenny want that type of fullback then he should offer Insua a new deal.

The fullback position is also probably the most difficult position. You need to be strong in defence, good crosser and be be able to get past your man.

If you look at all the left fullbacks we been linked with then no one of them is under 23 years old. It takes time for a fullback to learn everything he need to learn.

[Kopite Kymraeg]

he's better than that useless wank that goes by the name of Konchesky.....he was pure toilet and considering that we paid 3m plus 2 up and coming youngsters, we got rightly focked over......

I think Insua is a good enough player and as people have said, under a good manager he could thrive - look at Robinson and Flanagan. When they were all coming through initially, Insua was as highly regarded as those Brazilian twins at the scum.....

The problem with Insua is he got thrown into the deep end and it ****ed up his development - whereas we should have been easing him into the side, playing against lower league opposition and making sub appearances, he was actually playing every week in a team that was under big pressure with a civil war within the club in the background........

who knows, with Kelly and Flanagan able to play right back - this means that Glen can sometimes play left back - as can Aurelio......as can agger.........as can Robinson..........as can Insua..........although we don't have a top top top left back, i think we should only fill this position if a top top LB becomes available (Baines.....)

"Toilet" Ha ha ha. Now this post I like, speaks a lot of sense in terms of how his development was hampered.

[lickedlollipop]

kenny is like a magician, remember that!