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    It's a game of....erm...three thirds?

    Qatar World Cup game of three halves would be ad boost for TV and Fifa

    Fifa has denied reports that World Cup games in Qatar could be over three half-hour periods because of the heat, but you can't help noticing that more ad breaks would result

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    Matt Scott
    Matt Scott
    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 7 July 2011 14.09 BST
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    Ummslal stadium in Qatar
    Ummslal stadium in Qatar, hosts of the 2022 World Cup, where matches could be played over three 30 minute sessions because of the heat. Photograph: HH Vision

    When the 2022 World Cup was awarded to Qatar some things were always going to warp under the desert sun. But few could have predicted that it would be the very structure of the game of football itself that changes shape.

    Yet that is precisely what could happen when the football world makes its desert trek in a decade's time, according to a director of the firm whose technology will be used to keep the stadiums cool. Michael Beaven of the engineers Arup Associates told a conference on Wednesday of the "extreme risk" of injury to players if stadium temperatures rise beyond 30C. "If it's 32C [Fifa says it] will stop a match and play three 30-minute thirds rather than two 45-minute halves," said Beaven. At midday on Thursday the mercury in Doha climbed to 38C, with 41C forecast for Friday, and both dates could very well be used as World Cup match days in 2022.

    The three-thirds idea would be some departure from tradition if it comes to pass. Football has been played in two sets of 45 minutes since its earliest Victorian origins almost 150 years ago. During that time two World Cups have taken place in Mexico, and another in the US, when the Republic of Ireland played Holland in Orlando on Independence Day.

    As the Republic's former midfielder Ray Houghton told the BBC last year the heat at that 1994 tournament was dangerously oppressive. "The heat was a massive factor," Houghton recalled. "When we played Mexico in Orlando it was about 110 degrees [Fahrenheit, or 43C] and there were problems getting water to us on the pitch. I got booked for picking up a bag of water that had been lobbed at me, which was ridiculous given the conditions."

    Fifa has denied that the three-thirds rather than two-halves structure of a 90-minute football match is under formal consideration but it is clear it has shifted its focus and is scratching around for ways to take the heat off players.

    The ideas flowing from Fifa's thinktanks are stimulated by fears that there is much more at stake today than 17 years ago. Back in 1994 the world-record transfer fee was about £10m, today it is £80m, and fees in excess of £20m are routinely paid for proven international players. Fifa's liability if negligence led to tragedy would be dangerously high.

    And so there has been urgency in Fifa's thinking. It took only one month after the controversial decision to hand Qatar the World Cup for Fifa's president, Sepp Blatter, to propose his first solution. It was for the World Cup to be held in the Arabian winter but this scheme was swiftly quashed as the clubs rose up in revolt. It is one thing releasing their players for a tournament to be played in risky conditions while receiving negligible financial return – $100,000 (£63,000) per club on average, from a tournament generating $3.7bn for Fifa – quite another for the World Cup tournament also to be plonked in the middle of their season schedule.

    It was a battle Blatter could not win because ranged against him were not only the clubs but the broadcasters, whose winter-summer cycle of domestic-and-international football is extremely lucrative. Beaven says that the idea of a game of three thirds "would play havoc with TV schedules and those kind of things" but here his thinking seems misplaced.

    An extra playing period introduces an extra interval, and an extra interval provides commercial broadcasters with more ad space to sell. And when the World Cup becomes more lucrative for commercial broadcasters, it becomes more lucrative for Fifa.

    The 2010 World Cup broadcasting rights were worth $2.4bn to Fifa; for that to grow considerably in future there would have to be some radical developments.

    Fifa's marketers will not be blind to the $3m that was paid for 30 seconds of US advertising airtime during the 2009 Super Bowl, nor to the fact that the four-quarters structure of American football yielded 48 minutes of commercials.

    A desire to tap in to that kind of lucre has surely motivated the three-thirds considerations as much as any deeply felt concern for players' health. After all, 17 years ago, Ray Houghton was getting booked by Fifa's referees just for trying to slake his thirst.

    #2
    The heat is something they should have taken into consideration when deciding the location of the world cup, obviously alot of the committee were too concerned with they payments to consider any of the practical implications of the tournament
    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      #3
      Absolutely right mate. It's not as if the heat is a sudden problem that's just emerged, that nobody realised about

      They're ****ing clowns, the lot of them. It's all but been proved now, that the award to Qatar was nothing but bought and paid for, yet it's probably still going to go ahead. Now they're talking about three thirds of 30 mins Not only is it nonsense and attempting to change the basics of football, but even 30 minute thirds wouldnt exactly negate the heat.

      FIFA = idiotic ****s.

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        #4
        Just thought as well if you have 3 thirds then presumably you will change ends at the end of every third, meaning that one side could have 2/3 of the game with the sun in their eyes or wind behind them while the other will only get one, this presumably gives a huge advantage to the side that wins the toss.
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          #5
          Might as well go the whole hog and do four quarters then

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            #6
            An engineer from Arups was on the radio yesterday saying they were very confident that they could make the AC work in the stadiums, they will have to have roof's though otherwise they have got no chance

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              #7
              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
              Absolutely right mate. It's not as if the heat is a sudden problem that's just emerged, that nobody realised about

              They're ****ing clowns, the lot of them. It's all but been proved now, that the award to Qatar was nothing but bought and paid for, yet it's probably still going to go ahead. Now they're talking about three thirds of 30 mins Not only is it nonsense and attempting to change the basics of football, but even 30 minute thirds wouldnt exactly negate the heat.

              FIFA = idiotic ****s.
              Surely with all the strategy plans and stuff that are supposed to go into analysing the bid things like climate, safety, timing of games etc as well as facilities should be considered. There was talk before the world Cup in Africa about temperature possibly affecting players so to be working on things like this now (and discussing moving it to winter as was mentioned before) they can't have been unaware. FIFA are a joke. As I say it's a clearly case of the committee members looking after their own pockets rather than doing their job.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                Might as well go the whole hog and do four quarters then
                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                  #9
                  haven't they denied these statements ?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lickedlollipop View Post
                    haven't they denied these statements ?
                    Yup.

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                      #11
                      And people believe them?

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                        #12
                        Funny how the original report few months before the vote all but ruled Qatar out due to health concerns due to heat amonst other things and yet they still get it. A customer of mine came in right after he got back from Sth Africa for world cup and he told me if you can bet on who will win the WC22 put everything you have on Qatar. He was friends with an official or delegate or something and said they **** that changed hands at the world cup by the Qatari's was ridiculous.

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                          #13
                          quarters would actually work, would also allow more tv advertising.

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                            #14
                            ****ing Qatar, stole our World Cup.
                            96 Never Forgotten

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                              ****ing Qatar, stole our World Cup.
                              Here we go again
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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