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Soiling it isn't itOriginally posted by dom9 View PostSurely they're taking clean money (legitimately earned by businesses such as airlines) and making it dirty (paying agents, hiding it in accounts, disguising it as something else).
They're the opposite of money launderers. Is there even a term for that?
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Interesting read but so what.....nothing will happen to them that will result in us getting a retrospective title.
UEFA might kick them out of Europe but that will just make them harder to beat in England. We had hoped that FFP would level the playing field but City and PSG in particular are assuming they are above the rules.
I remember Jack Walker at Blackburn and how he effectively bank rolled a title, then Abramovich and his dirty money funded Chelsea but City are bankrolled by one of the richest COUNTRIES in the world. How do you compete with that over a season.
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Originally posted by Irishnev View PostInteresting read but so what.....nothing will happen to them that will result in us getting a retrospective title.
UEFA might kick them out of Europe but that will just make them harder to beat in England. We had hoped that FFP would level the playing field but City and PSG in particular are assuming they are above the rules.
I remember Jack Walker at Blackburn and how he effectively bank rolled a title, then Abramovich and his dirty money funded Chelsea but City are bankrolled by one of the richest COUNTRIES in the world. How do you compete with that over a season.
A one season ban from Europe does nothing, even imposing a transfer ban does nothing as they don't really need to strengthen their squad.
What should happen is that they are forced to recover the deficit by which they breached FFP (corrected for 'football inflation' in the time since) and they should face some fairly hefty fines as are deemed appropriate (which should also be included in their current FFP calculations). This should force them to sell players in order to meet the rules and would presumably mean they couldn't buy anyone for a while. This wouldn't put them back to where they should have been if they had played by the rules from the beginning, but it is a start to redressing the balance, if applied properly it would put them in a situation where they their worries about making Europe come from actually qualifying rather than facing a ban, similarly their concern wouldn't be about transfer bans, but having to meet the FFP rules, which puts things back in a more natural position.
Just giving them a fine and/or a transfer ban is just a slap on the wrists and doesn't address the real problem, because it doesn't get them away from the position of dominance that the breaching of the rules created for them. You can be fairly sure that UEFA will just go for the slap on the wrist approach.Last edited by Exiled_red; 18-05-19, 04:54 PM.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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UEFA will fine them €100m and it'll make not one iota of difference to them and the world of difference to UEFAOriginally posted by Exiled_red View Post
A one season ban from Europe does nothing, even imposing a transfer ban does nothing as they don't really need to strengthen their squad.
What should happen is that they are forced to recover the deficit by which they breached FFP (corrected for 'football inflation' in the time since) and they should face some fairly hefty fines as are deemed appropriate (which should also be included in their current FFP calculations). This should force them to sell players in order to meet the rules and would presumably mean they couldn't buy anyone for a while. This wouldn't put them back to where they should have been if they had played by the rules from the beginning, but it is a start to redressing the balance, if applied properly it would put them in a situation where they their worries about making Europe come from actually qualifying rather than facing a ban, similarly their concern wouldn't be about transfer bans, but having to meet the FFP rules, which puts things back in a more natural position.
Just giving them a fine and/or a transfer ban is just a slap on the wrists and doesn't address the real problem, because it doesn't get them away from the position of dominance that the breaching of the rules created for them. You can be fairly sure that UEFA will just go for the slap on the wrist approach.
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The only thing that would make UEFA sit up and do something is if the elite clubs of Europe threatened them some how. The thing is I’m sure the real European elite dislike City but because they aren’t winning in Europe they aren’t a threat yet. It’s the English clubs that will suffer as they’ll dominate here and win everything domestically and you can be sure the FA will do **** all.Originally posted by Norbs View PostUEFA will fine them €100m and it'll make not one iota of difference to them and the world of difference to UEFA
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