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    Still pissed we've missed out on 2 titles because of these cheating *******s. And that its allowed is the most frustrating part.

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      Originally posted by vlahka View Post
      Still pissed we've missed out on 2 titles because of these cheating *******s. And that its allowed is the most frustrating part.
      Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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        Originally posted by vlahka View Post
        Still pissed we've missed out on 2 titles because of these cheating *******s. And that its allowed is the most frustrating part.
        3 titles isn't it?

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          Originally posted by Norbs View Post
          3 titles isn't it?
          Yeah, 1 with Brendan and 2 with Klopp

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            Why have City signed Obama ?

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              What's the perceived financial advantage for City here?

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                Aside from financial advantages, the footballing bodies have totally ruined football, bottled supervision, state ownership and now this silly multi-club system. Hope they grow some balls and throw the book at City, and Chelsea.
                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                  Originally posted by BG1973 View Post
                  What's the perceived financial advantage for City here?
                  I am not saying that there necessarily has been anything dodgy in this deal benefiting City but clubs buying players from other clubs in the same group has to offer an advantage. Clearly there is a hierarchy in these multi-club groups.

                  It seems somewhat dubious to me at least that a club spend a record fee on a player, loan him out to an affiliated club, and sell him on the biggest affiliated club without him ever playing a game for the club that owns him. I can't think of many cases where a club record signing never plays for the club, before being moved on to a bigger club, maybe there are cases where you buy a record signing and he's not as good as you thought loan him out and he never comes back, or you don't think he was ready, so loaned him out somewhere and he does better than you expected good offers come in and you sell, but I imagine these cases are rather rare. When the buyers are another club in your group though it raises eyebrows.

                  I don't like the multi club system as it feels like there are potentially ways that you can game the system, by moving money around or players values being inflated or deflated as appropriate. I am not saying any of that has happened here. The less fair minded among us might wonder if a few small moves to test the waters and see how much heat/attention they get might paving the way for bigger deals in future...
                  The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                    Originally posted by BG1973 View Post
                    What's the perceived financial advantage for City here?
                    One assumes that he will transfer to City below market value and the team not subject to ffp will take the hit.
                    In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                      There muat be an advantage but city could have bought him direct for the same fee.

                      This seems like they are owning clubs as a way to control more players and feed them to city if they're good enough.

                      That to me is pretty smart if you can afford it...

                      It gets dodgy though if city then use the clubs to send players to get them off their books.. but the players would have to agree to that so not much of a business plan.

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                        Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                        I am not saying that there necessarily has been anything dodgy in this deal benefiting City but clubs buying players from other clubs in the same group has to offer an advantage. Clearly there is a hierarchy in these multi-club groups.

                        It seems somewhat dubious to me at least that a club spend a record fee on a player, loan him out to an affiliated club, and sell him on the biggest affiliated club without him ever playing a game for the club that owns him. I can't think of many cases where a club record signing never plays for the club, before being moved on to a bigger club, maybe there are cases where you buy a record signing and he's not as good as you thought loan him out and he never comes back, or you don't think he was ready, so loaned him out somewhere and he does better than you expected good offers come in and you sell, but I imagine these cases are rather rare. When the buyers are another club in your group though it raises eyebrows.

                        I don't like the multi club system as it feels like there are potentially ways that you can game the system, by moving money around or players values being inflated or deflated as appropriate. I am not saying any of that has happened here. The less fair minded among us might wonder if a few small moves to test the waters and see how much heat/attention they get might paving the way for bigger deals in future...
                        the multi club system gets around several issues, work permit, park the player in a European friendly league until work permit issues are resolved.
                        Hover up talent at your satellite clubs so the main club isn't absorbing all the costs of young talent.
                        Park your failures on another clubs balance sheet.

                        You can go and on
                        I make no apologies, this is me

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                          Originally posted by rudedog View Post
                          Yeah, 1 with Brendan and 2 with Klopp
                          If Brendan won the title, do we reckon that he'd have got more time??? And consequently Jurgen would have ended up going elsewhere????

                          Cheers City

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                            Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
                            If Brendan won the title, do we reckon that he'd have got more time??? And consequently Jurgen would have ended up going elsewhere????

                            Cheers City
                            Nope, I doubt it.

                            Winning the title wouldn’t have improved FSG and Brendan’s rocky relationship and he would still have been resistant to their data driven model.

                            Suarez would still have left for Barca.

                            The same mixed bag of players would still have been signed.

                            We’d still have struggled the following season and early 2015/16.

                            Having waited years for him, FSG would still have jumped as soon as Klopp became available.

                            The only thing that would have given Brendan any chance (in addition to silverware) would have been if he’d had a strong relationship with FSG’s club hierarchy and had bought in to their data driven approach.
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                              Originally posted by Mark79 View Post
                              Nope, I doubt it.

                              Winning the title wouldn’t have improved FSG and Brendan’s rocky relationship and he would still have been resistant to their data driven model.

                              Suarez would still have left for Barca.

                              The same mixed bag of players would still have been signed.

                              We’d still have struggled the following season and early 2015/16.

                              Having waited years for him, FSG would still have jumped as soon as Klopp became available.

                              The only thing that would have given Brendan any chance (in addition to silverware) would have been if he’d had a strong relationship with FSG’s club hierarchy and had bought in to their data driven approach.
                              Yip you are right

                              **** you City

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                                Originally posted by BG1973 View Post
                                What's the perceived financial advantage for City here?
                                The city group can spend whatever they like hoovering up young players, then moving those deemed at the required level for market acceptable fee Mancs without a negative impact on FFP/sustainability for City

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