Manchester City

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Even when they are celebrating what is their greatest achievement we are still living rent free in their heads

[SB]

4 consecutive titles is a success up there with Lance Armstrong's 7 Tour de Frances

[Mark79]

How every mention of their success should be framed in the media.

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[peterbread]

Del

[Irishnev]

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[Buzzo]

Sometimes easy to forget how blatantly they have been caught.

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[Mark79]

Yep, the Der Spiegel investigation and evidence was explosive and damning.

I still can’t believe how the sheer weight of details and the extent of the financial cheating have been overlooked/accepted/forgotten over the years.

[Buzzo]

I’d completely forgotten that there is absolutely no doubt that they cheated - they were caught red handed. A lot of it is literally admitted by them.

All they can do is obfuscate. But the cheating is blatant and laid out for everyone to see.

[Buzzo]

That tweet has loads of threads within it. This is interesting from the author - we’ve discussed on here the potential ties between the two countries.

won’t the UK Government just stop Man City from being punished to protect its relationship with UAE?

I most strongly doubt this.

I know there is an article in the Athletic that reveals members of UKG have consulted UAE officials about the charges and that they won’t reveal what was said.

However, I believe there are three reasons why UKG would never interfere:

1) The Commission will be made up of expert, suitably qualified and independent individuals selected by Murray Rosen QC (the independent chair of the Premier League Judicial Panel). I only know Rosen by reputation but it is an outstanding one. I have confidence he will select only unimpeachable individuals that cannot be influenced by any external party.

2) It would be unbelievably stupid to undertake what would amount to corruption to benefit one ally when it would severely damage relations with others (such as the USA given so many EPL clubs have US owners). It would also destroy confidence in international investors investing in the UK. The risks far outweigh any conceivable benefit.

3) If it were discovered, that a political party interfered so egregiously with English football, I doubt they’d ever be voted in again. They care about themselves far more than they do about relations with one ally over a football team.

[ChesterDave]

3 is a fanciful belief. The Tories voted for policies that starved the disabled to death and got voted in again.

[Mark79]

This is the counter point to that. (Buzzo's UK/UAE post)

But either way, there's no doubt that UK/UAE relations are the real sticking point here.

It's got nothing to do with lack of evidence or any difficulty in making the charges stick at PL level.

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[Buzzo]

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[ChesterDave]

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Good to see 90% of fans stayed to watch

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There are more people on the pitch than in the stands