Everton

[kev776]

Yep, it's certainly changed a lot.

I know Evertonians mention Heysel and subsequent European ban but it didn't seem to spoil the spirit of the '86 Cup Final. And '89 was OK too.

It seems to have got worse since then.

Strangely that's when football changed enormously with the Premier League, Sky, massive hype, obscene amounts of money... Perhaps that's just a coincidence.

This is a big reason for the split, many bitters believe we stopped them marching through Europe winning everything in sight, because of the ban, this deprived them of 500 billion pounds of Sky/UEFA money and is the main reason they are so ****, all our fault, totally 100%.

Sad to admit I hate them as much as the Mancs, Mancs for their sucess and Blute****e for their fans.

[rodo]

friendly derby has long gone there`s murder every derby day now

[Daniel 7]

In Liverpool pubs for the derby, Everton fans don't actually discuss whats going on, they just grunt and make loud disappointed growling noises, punctuated with swearing and arm waving. Its very regressive and base level.

[rodo]

[Angryred]

In Liverpool pubs for the derby, Everton fans don't actually discuss whats going on, they just grunt and make loud disappointed growling noises, punctuated with swearing and arm waving. Its very regressive and base level.

Thats what David Attenburg said in his mammals on earth programme last week...

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[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

[Neil Young]

This is a big reason for the split, many bitters believe we stopped them marching through Europe winning everything in sight, because of the ban, this deprived them of 500 billion pounds of Sky/UEFA money and is the main reason they are so ****, all our fault, totally 100%.

Sad to admit I hate them as much as the Mancs, Mancs for their sucess and Blute****e for their fans.

Yes, they blame the European ban, so therefore blame us, but when they (and everyone else) were banned from Europe it was all OK (hence the example of the two FA cup finals). So it's not the European ban really, that's just a convenient rationale, a received wisdom, that many of them have adopted.

[TheElephantMan]

I know loads of Evertonians and have no problem with any of them. There's a bit of banter, but not cuntish bitterness. I've only been to a handful of derby games and there is a hatred and intensity during the game which vanishes once everybody spills out of the ground. I agree with Neil that we should rise above the nastiness and be sympathetic - the nastier element would really hate that.

I obviously wouldn't want them to become more successful than ourselves, but I hope they are competitive again some time soon. The rivalry is important to both clubs and the city. The thing which surprises me more than anything is that the Evertonians are not making noise like we did, they should be more vocal and get organised. In that respect I would suggest that they lack the same passion for their football club, or maybe it's just malaise has set in over the years - their fans need to wake up if they're going to save their club.

[Fernandinho]

Could it be that to an extent we knew what we were missing out on a lot more then they did...? Like we had some serious glory days of titles and European Cups and we knew what we were missing...?

[Mostar]

Royston Drenthe on making music in Ryan Babel's house & playing against Dirk Kuyt

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/multimedia/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/video/2011/09/06/royston-drenthe-on-making-music-in-ryan-babel-s-house-playing-against-dirk-kuyt-100252-29373644/

[Daniel 7]

The last time they won the title was only 3 years before us.

[lickedlollipop]

The last time they won the title was only 3 years before us.

yes, first divison. what about the rest?

[Daniel 7]

FA Cup in 95 wasn't it? I wanted them to win that game. Rideout!!

[lickedlollipop]

FA Cup in 95 wasn't it? I wanted them to win that game. Rideout!!

yep

@ wish

[Shaggy]

philmcnulty Phil McNulty
Everton fans will stage a protest march before game v Aston Villa on Saturday over "stagnation" under current board. #bbcfootball #fb

The same fans who laughed at and belittled us for doing similar. "You won't catch us doing anything like that la"