Everton

[Sus]

How does this case get resolved so quickly but City's takes 4 years+?

[frank the tank]

To be honest, if they are to be deducted points though, this is the year for it. They will still stay up imo. They seem to have started to look well organised compared to before and have started to pick up a few half decent results. There will still be 3 ****ter teams than them imo - most probably the 3 promoted teams from last season.

The offences took place in previous seasons though when they stayed up by a cunt hair. Surely the teams tjat went down in 18th position over the last few seasons have genuine complaints now and will be looking for compo??

Also, wtf is going on at city then??? Total bull**** if their 115 charges go nowhere

[Craig_H]

This is huge.

While I don’t have faith in the authorities to do this, it sets a major precedent for what happens to Man City.

As much as Everton fans love City, the club must surely use Man City as an example when they lodge their appeal, which means, if the sanction is upheld, it puts enormous pressure on the authorities to sanction City in a similar way.

[Slinky Skills]

This **** is ****ing hilarious hahahaha

[rudedog]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/16/pressure-grows-on-premier-league-to-crack-down-on-club-spending-breaches

The Premier League is under mounting pressure to crack down on clubs after an investigation by the Guardian and international partners uncovered secret payments that raise questions about the financial affairs of Chelsea under their former owner – the billionaire oligarch Roman Abramovich.

As experts warned that Chelsea could face a points deduction if found guilty of breaching spending rules, politicians and a senior executive at a rival club called for tougher oversight of football clubs.


On Wednesday, it was revealed that the club may have benefited from tens of millions of pounds in payments routed through offshore vehicles belonging to Abramovich.


Beneficiaries appear to include the agent of the star player Eden Hazard, an associate of the title-winning manager Antonio Conte and Chelsea FC officials. Other payments appear to have been connected to the purchase of the players Willian and Samuel Eto’o.

The Premier League has already accused Manchester City of breaking rules, chiefly related to spending limits, issuing more than 100 charges against the club in February 2023. However, no resolution has been reached nine months later amid a protracted legal tussle between the two sides.

Everton, charged with breaking financial rules a month later, are expected to discover their fate sooner, with a judicial panel rumoured to be considering recommending a 12-point deduction. Everton and Manchester City are contesting the charges.

The Premier League must now decide whether it has sufficient evidence to charge Chelsea with breaking the rules. The Football Association is also investigating the west London club’s finances.

Clive Betts, a Labour MP who heads a cross-party parliamentary group on football, called on the culture secretary, Lucy Frazer, to put pressure on football’s governing bodies to look into the findings in depth.

In a written question, he asked whether Frazer, whose department oversees sport, “believes that clubs which seek to circumvent the Premier League’s financial fair play (FFP) rules undermine the credibility of the competition and are guilty of cheating”.


Betts also asked whether Frazer intends to contact the Premier League in relation to the allegations and whether she accepts that a new football regulator must have sufficient resources and skills to identify breaches of FFP and hold clubs to account.

The government is to put a football governance bill before parliament next year, confirming the legislation that will create an independent regulator for the game.

A senior Tory said the regulator was needed to ensure proper oversight, with currently too much overlap between the clubs and governing bodies such as the Premier League, which is made up of the 20 clubs in the top division. “This [revelations about Chelsea’s finances] is another example as to why politicians are concerned about connections between football clubs and the people who regulate them,” said the source.


A senior executive at one top-flight club said they were becoming frustrated with the length of time it has taken to investigate alleged breaches of financial rules by other clubs. They said any punishment meted out to Everton was likely to be seen as a signal of how severe penalties could be at other clubs if they are found to have breached the rules, but said the case “seems to go on for ever” given that Everton are facing only one charge.

Kieran Maguire, football finance expert and author of The Price of Football, said: “There could be pressure from other clubs to take things further [if Chelsea are charged] given the extent of the report into these unusual offshore transactions.”

Details of payments made by companies owned by Abramovich, apparently to fund Chelsea FC business, came to light thanks to an international investigation known as Cyprus Confidential, a cache of 3.6m offshore records leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) and Germany’s Paper Trail Media, which shared access with the Guardian, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ) and other media.

Earlier this week, a Chelsea spokesperson said that the allegations “pre-date the club’s current ownership. They are based on documents which the club has not been shown and do not relate to any individual who is presently at the club.”

The spokesperson said that during the purchase of the club – by a consortium led by the US investor Todd Boehly – the buyers became aware of “potentially incomplete financial reporting concerning historical transactions during the club’s previous ownership.

“Immediately following the completion of the purchase, the club proactively self-reported these matters to all applicable football regulators. In accordance with the club’s ownership group’s core principles of full compliance and transparency the club has proactively assisted the applicable regulators with their investigations and will continue to do so.”

The Premier League declined to comment while its investigation is continuing. An FA spokesperson said: “We are investigating

[Irishnev]

To be honest, if they are to be deducted points though, this is the year for it. They will still stay up imo. They seem to have started to look well organised compared to before and have started to pick up a few half decent results. There will still be 3 ****ter teams than them imo - most probably the 3 promoted teams from last season.

The offences took place in previous seasons though when they stayed up by a cunt hair. Surely the teams tjat went down in 18th position over the last few seasons have genuine complaints now and will be looking for compo??

Also, wtf is going on at city then??? Total bull**** if their 115 charges go nowhere

Yep, they’ll still probably stay up ffs

This is huge.

While I don’t have faith in the authorities to do this, it sets a major precedent for what happens to Man City.

As much as Everton fans love City, the club must surely use Man City as an example when they lodge their appeal, which means, if the sanction is upheld, it puts enormous pressure on the authorities to sanction City in a similar way.

We hope so - a points deduction isn’t enough, we need them relegated and title won stripped. Chelsea too if we are being consistent

****ing cheats

[Mark79]

How does this case get resolved so quickly but City's takes 4 years+?

City's legal team deliberately delay and are obstructive to any investigations against them.

Everton were presumably cooperative.

[jonnygrunter]

To be honest, if they are to be deducted points though, this is the year for it. They will still stay up imo. They seem to have started to look well organised compared to before and have started to pick up a few half decent results. There will still be 3 ****ter teams than them imo - most probably the 3 promoted teams from last season.

The offences took place in previous seasons though when they stayed up by a cunt hair. Surely the teams tjat went down in 18th position over the last few seasons have genuine complaints now and will be looking for compo??

Also, wtf is going on at city then??? Total bull**** if their 115 charges go nowhere

agreed! I would be pretty annoyed if i was an everton fan! personally dont want to see them go down. them being in the premier league is good for the city - as long as we beat them and finish above them than i am happy

[Craig_H]

We hope so - a points deduction isn’t enough, we need them relegated and title won stripped. Chelsea too if we are being consistent

****ing cheats

That would be great but I can’t see it. Right now, if City’s punishment was a 6-10 point deduction, I’d consider that outcome to be right out of the Hodgson “utopia” envelope.

[Deano]

They accepted they had breached PSR, why are they surprised they got caught with their pants down, it's in the bloody ruling FFS.

And the statement saying it impacts supporters, well they were cheering the ****ing dross you overpaid for you melt. They were cheering the transfer window winners awards.

And then, trying to offset Player X who got arrested, saying we could have sued him for £10m but we didn't, I mean what the actual **** !!!

[Irishnev]

That would be great but I can’t see it. Right now, if City’s punishment was a 6-10 point deduction, I’d consider that outcome to be right out of the Hodgson “utopia” envelope.

It would be typical in the year that we aren’t head and shoulders above the rest. Their corruption was systemic and to the level of Juve, plus they are deliberately bring difficult and non compliant - I think they might get the book thrown at them but equally they might get a 50 quid fine

[Exiled_red]

To be honest, if they are to be deducted points though, this is the year for it. They will still stay up imo. They seem to have started to look well organised compared to before and have started to pick up a few half decent results. There will still be 3 ****ter teams than them imo - most probably the 3 promoted teams from last season.

The offences took place in previous seasons though when they stayed up by a cunt hair. Surely the teams tjat went down in 18th position over the last few seasons have genuine complaints now and will be looking for compo??

Also, wtf is going on at city then??? Total bull**** if their 115 charges go nowhere

They will stay up without too much trouble even after the point deduction they are only 19th and only 2 points from safety, if it were applied in either of last couple of years they would have gone down.

[red g]

That would be great but I can’t see it. Right now, if City’s punishment was a 6-10 point deduction, I’d consider that outcome to be right out of the Hodgson “utopia” envelope.

Everton been done for 1 breach and they got 10 points. City are looking at 115 breaches. Playin in the Northern Premier next season

[Scratch]

Yup, also explains why the City one is taking a lot more time, they have a team of lawyers contesting every breach, whereas Everton owned their error.

So, even if only 10% of the charges against City stick, they could be in for a hefty punishment.

[BootRoom]

They'll treat this like winning the League when they stay up after being docked 10 points. They should have been handed a transfer ban too. It will be interesting to see if the relegated teams go through with their threats of legal action.