Champions League games 13/14 September

[Shaggy]

Some random teams

Barcelona: Valdés, Dani Alves, Busquets, Mascherano, Abidal, Keita, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa, Messi

Borussia Dortmund: Weidenfeller, Piszczek, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer, Bender, Kehl, Gotze, Kagawa, Grosskreutz, Lewandowski.

Subs: Langerak, Da Silva, Zidan, Blaszczykowski, Gundogan, Felipe Santana, Perisic.

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs, Song, Arteta, Walcott, Benayoun, Gervinho, van Persie.

Subs: Fabianski, Park, Andre Santos, Djourou, Arshavin, Frimpong, Chamakh.

Chelsea: Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Luiz, Cole, Mikel, Sturridge, Malouda, Meireles, Mata, Torres.

Subs: Hilario, Lampard, Ferreira, McEachran, Kalou, Alex, Anelka.

Bayer Leverkusen: Leno, Castro, Reinartz, Toprak, Kadlec, Rolfes, Bender, Ballack, Sam, Kiessling, Schurrle.

Subs: Yelldell, Schwaab, Friedrich, Renato Augusto, Balitsch, Derdiyok, Bellarabi.

[Shaggy]

Mata, Meireles, Sturridge and, er, Torres is very much a new Chelsea. Interesting to see they get on.

[Craig_H]

What are the 'money printing' games you're putting your house on then?

[Kenneth]

Sven Bender

[little dave hedgehog]

bender plays for leverkusen?

[Craig_H]

bender plays for leverkusen?

Yep and in true Bender style, he will post a thread to break the news....sometime next week.

[little dave hedgehog]

Yep and in true Bender style, he will post a thread to break the news....sometime next week.

which is also when he will show up at the ground for the match.

[Craig_H]

[Shaggy]

What are the 'money printing' games you're putting your house on then?

Haven't had my bollocks on anything but I've gone with four tonight. Not saying cos I'll curse it. Not hard to guess though. About 6/1 for my four-timer.

[Craig_H]

I cant ****ing decide whether to watch Dortmund v Arsenal or Barca v Milan.

Barca are ****ing 1/2 to win and 4/6 to win on a -1.

Milan are 12/1 to win

That's a ****ing mental price. Even more so considering the matchwinners Milan have and Barca's slow-ish start to the season.

[Gibbo]

You could get £130 back off a tenner for Arsenal to beat Dortmund 2-0, I stuck that on

[Shaggy]

I cant ****ing decide whether to watch Dortmund v Arsenal or Barca v Milan.

Barca are ****ing 1/2 to win and 4/6 to win on a -1.

Milan are 12/1 to win

That's a ****ing mental price. Even more so considering the matchwinners Milan have and Barca's slow-ish start to the season.

Yep 6s for the draw in some places too.

I think Barca will win with a bit in hand.

Watching Barca-Milan but Chelsea's new-look team is fairly tempting. No interest in Arsenal, other than to see Gotze.

[Craig_H]

Haven't had my bollocks on anything but I've gone with four tonight. Not saying cos I'll curse it. Not hard to guess though. About 6/1 for my four-timer.

I cant actually find four 'obvious' CL picks for tonight.

I can only assume you've backed Dortmund...or an away side - probably Valencia, or maybe Arsenal but that would be risky.

Neither of which i would consider to be THAT safe.

[Craig_H]

PP only offering 9/2 for the draw in the Barca game.

12/1 is ridiculous though, but i suppose Robinho's out and Milan's average age is about 52. But still, it's AC ****ing Milan FFS.

12/1 is

[Craig_H]

Pato scores a brilliant individual goal after 23 seconds

12/1