England squad for Montenegro

[Craig_H]

If anyone cares....

GOALKEEPERS
Joe Hart (Man City)
Scott Carson (West Brom)
David Stockdale (Ipswich)

DEFENDERS
Leighton Baines (Everton)
Gary Cahill (Bolton)
Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
Phil Jagielka (Everton)
Phil Jones (Man Utd)
Micah Richards (Man City)
John Terry (captain, Chelsea)
Kyle Walker (Tottenham)

MIDFIELDERS
Gareth Barry (Man City)
Stewart Downing (Liverpool)
Adam Johnson (Man City)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
James Milner (Man City)
Scott Parker (Tottenham),
heo Walcott (Arsenal)
Ashley Young (Man Utd)

STRIKERS
Darren Bent (Aston Villa)
Andy Carroll (Liverpool)
Wayne Rooney (Man Utd)
Danny Welbeck (Man Utd)
Bobby Zamora (Fulham)

[Gibbo]

Internationals annoy me now tbh, Ive lost interest loads in England since the world cup, I prefer watching us play.

[BringbackBiscan]

Walcott's turning oriental.

Too many mancs in that side for me to give a **** about it. Then you've got Terry & Lampard.

[Kenneth]

And it's against bleedin Montenegro. Zzz

[Liverpool]

why zamora? strurridge has been in better form for the past 8 months

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

Did anyone read what Paul Scholes was on about?
Banging on about Liverpool and the scum players not getting on,in the past.

[Lee]

Crock of **** that squad.

[PTP]

why zamora? strurridge has been in better form for the past 8 months

strange one

Did anyone read what Paul Scholes was on about?
Banging on about Liverpool and the scum players not getting on,in the past.

no - go on....

[Shaggy]

Former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes believes club rivalries hamper England's chances of success.

The 36-year-old, now undertaking a coaching role at Old Trafford, retired from international football in 2004. But he revealed there was an atmosphere of suspicion between players from rival clubs during his time in the squad.

"There is a big rivalry between clubs in this country and it isn't healthy when you go away on international duty," he told the Sunday Mirror.

"When I was with England, there was always a lot of United players and Liverpool players in the squad and it was plainly obvious that some of our lads didn't like some of their boys and some of their lads didn't like some of us.

"We weren't just footballers, we actually loved the clubs we played for and the rivalry was always there. As Mancs and Scousers we were always a bit suspicious of each other and you can't have that kind of thing if you want to be successful at international level.

"You can't build a team or a spirit when that rivalry is always close to the surface. It was always too big to get over."

Earlier this week Scholes expressed a measure of sympathy with Carlos Tevez, who allegedly refused to appear as a substitute for Manchester City against Bayern Munich this week.

And in Sunday's Observer, Scholes, who went through a similar experience in League Cup tie for United in 2001, said: "The thing with Tevez is that [City manager Roberto] Mancini's definitely messing him about, which, when you're a player, you don't take kindly to.

"He's definitely trying to punish him for saying he wants to leave, because without doubt he was City's best player last season.

"To me it looks like he wants to play, but he can't cope with being sub. When you're a player you get the sense that - he's messing me about, I maybe have to show him I can't be messed about."

[Imy]

Scott Carson plays for Bursaspor in Turkey not WBA.

[Imy]

Did anyone read what Paul Scholes was on about?
Banging on about Liverpool and the scum players not getting on,in the past.

Former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes believes club rivalries hamper England's chances of success.

The 36-year-old, now undertaking a coaching role at Old Trafford, retired from international football in 2004. But he revealed there was an atmosphere of suspicion between players from rival clubs during his time in the squad.

"There is a big rivalry between clubs in this country and it isn't healthy when you go away on international duty," he told the Sunday Mirror.

"When I was with England, there was always a lot of United players and Liverpool players in the squad and it was plainly obvious that some of our lads didn't like some of their boys and some of their lads didn't like some of us.

"We weren't just footballers, we actually loved the clubs we played for and the rivalry was always there. As Mancs and Scousers we were always a bit suspicious of each other and you can't have that kind of thing if you want to be successful at international level.

"You can't build a team or a spirit when that rivalry is always close to the surface. It was always too big to get over."

Earlier this week Scholes expressed a measure of sympathy with Carlos Tevez, who allegedly refused to appear as a substitute for Manchester City against Bayern Munich this week.

And in Sunday's Observer, Scholes, who went through a similar experience in League Cup tie for United in 2001, said: "The thing with Tevez is that [City manager Roberto] Mancini's definitely messing him about, which, when you're a player, you don't take kindly to.

"He's definitely trying to punish him for saying he wants to leave, because without doubt he was City's best player last season.

"To me it looks like he wants to play, but he can't cope with being sub. When you're a player you get the sense that - he's messing me about, I maybe have to show him I can't be messed about."

Yet if we look at Spain both Barca and Real players seem to co-exist perfectly well.

[PTP]

just looking and assessing the england squad....

Joe Hart - a great goalkeeper, huge potential, could go on to be top, top class....but after that, is that it! the next best inline, Carson and Stockdale


Defence doesn't look two bad.....Cole and Baines, two very good left back to choose from - Ferdinand and Terry at the end of their careers but have the experience to pass on to Jones, Jaigleka and Cahill coming through.....right back richards/walker good and we have our martin kelly who if he can stay fit and have a run of games will surely be pushing for a squad place..

midfield however looks very average - all decent enough good prem players, but not one of those names in the midfield jumps of the page.

forwards - well rooney is good - bent deserves a go - hopefully carroll can step up as it will be good for his confidence and then ultimaly us. zamora no where near good enough for this level

[Exiled_red]

Internationals annoy me now tbh, Ive lost interest loads in England since the world cup, I prefer watching us play.

I lost interest in England about 10 years ago

Crock of **** that squad.

[Exiled_red]

Yet if we look at Spain both Barca and Real players seem to co-exist perfectly well.

There are huge rivalries between clubs in most countries but that doesn't seem to affect most of the other (big) national teams that much

[Shaggy]

It ruined Spain for years in fairness, and in fact the recent Real-Barca battles ****ed up Spain's team spirit, so much so they needed a big squad meeting to sort it all out. Their team spirit is miles better these days and one of the reasons they started winning stuff, but you sense it's held together by a thread.