International games 15/11/2011

[Chazza]

6-2 now

OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
RT @dalejohnsonESPN: Full Euro 2012 finals draw pots: 1: POL UKR ESP NED; 2: GER ITA ENG RUS; 3: CRO GRE SWE POR; 4: DEN FRA CZE IRE
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[Craig_H]

Well they're the reigning world and European champions.

[Craig_H]

Germany are constantly getting better and better, a 3:0 win against Holland tonight.

In the last two international tournaments they were only second to Spain in terms of quality (and in South Africa their football was much more attractive than Spanish if you ask me, quite honestly the only team to save the cup from being complete ****e), they have an amazing generation of young players coming forward and I hope they can continue their good form next year, it will be hard for anyone to stop them.

Germany have been very much on the up for the last 2 or 3 years, while the Spanish appear to be in danger of hitting some kind of plateau and one wonders if the Germans will overtake them next summer as the world's best.

So that's Croatia, Czech's, Portugal and Ireland all through

Costa Rica 2 - 0 against Spain at halftime

Paulo Wanchope with both

For real? That's a windup surely He's about 50 now

[ChesterDave]

Germany should be favourites for Euro 2012 IMO.

[Craig_H]

6-2 now

OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
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I've alluded to it before and it's no great surprise that the hosts are seeded into the first pot, as it always happens - but it's absolutely pathetic that Poland and Ukraine will represent 'top seeds' in half the groups. Absolutely ridiculous, the draw will be totally lop sided, with 2 piss poor groups and two groups where the third seeds are better than the first seeds in half the groups

Germany in pot 2 They're possibly now the world's best team and they're in pot 2 Imagine a group of Spain, Germany Portugal and France

When is the draw made?

[lickedlollipop]

6:2 zomg

[Chazza]

For real? That's a windup surely He's about 50 now

If only it was crazy legs Paulo, no idea who scored really

[Chazza]

I've alluded to it before and it's no great surprise that the hosts are seeded into the first pot, as it always happens - but it's absolutely pathetic that Poland and Ukraine will represent 'top seeds' in half the groups. Absolutely ridiculous, the draw will be totally lop sided, with 2 piss poor groups and two groups where the third seeds are better than the first seeds in half the groups

Germany in pot 2 They're possibly now the world's best team and they're in pot 2 Imagine a group of Spain, Germany Portugal and France

When is the draw made?

Draw is on Friday the 2nd December

[Chazza]

Uruguay beat Italy 1-0 away

Coates played the 2nd half

[Craig_H]

Cheers mate The Wanchope joke was classic

[ChesterDave]

How the hell are Greece in pot 3?

[Chazza]

How the hell are Greece in pot 3?

Its supposed to be done by the UEFA coefficient which doesn't make sense as France are higher than Greece

Edit - A quick look on Wiki comes up with this

Final ranking in 2011

The ranking points to be calculated for UEFA Euro 2012 final tournament, will be found by adding up:[5]

40% of the average points per game, earned in the 2012 Euro qualifying stage.
40% of the average points per game, earned in the 2010 World Cup qualifying stage and final tournament.
20% of the average points per game, earned in the 2008 Euro qualifying stage and final tournament.

[ChesterDave]

Makes it a bit unfair for teams who qualified from the smaller groups.

Although an average points per game is being used, the lack of an extra teams from one of the poorer countries doesnt give them a chance to boost their avg.

I mean, Russia FFS. They are pretty awful, and by pretty awful I mean ****. Denmark, Sweden, Portugal, France - all better than Russia.