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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    I think we'd be best served as a fan base by staying out of this. We did ourselves no favours as a fan base and a club during the Suarez / Evra affair.


    We didnt cover ourselves in glory, and the sooner we recognise that, the better.
    *Except Michael, who died.

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      For what it's worth I think it's ridiculous if Cavani gets any kind of sanction for this.
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        Originally posted by fidget View Post
        For what it's worth I think it's ridiculous if Cavani gets any kind of sanction for this.
        I do too. Hes obviously not realised its culturally insensitive. Then when he has, he immediately removed it.

        But the FA took a stance of zero tolerance. So what do they do?
        *Except Michael, who died.

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          Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
          I think we'd be best served as a fan base by staying out of this. We did ourselves no favours as a fan base and a club during the Suarez / Evra affair.
          Originally posted by Alex View Post


          We didnt cover ourselves in glory, and the sooner we recognise that, the better.


          Literally thousands of posts from us all on the subject.

          Any outrage if/when Cavani doesnt get any sort of ban will be a really bad look. No doubt it will happen though.
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            Originally posted by Alex View Post
            I do too. Hes obviously not realised its culturally insensitive. Then when he has, he immediately removed it.

            But the FA took a stance of zero tolerance. So what do they do?
            I don't think it is culturally insensitive.
            I think the FA backed themselves into a corner through their ridiculous and inconsistent actions in the past and their ill thought out racism code.
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              Originally posted by El Diego View Post
              What did Evra called Suarez? Thought he just called him a South American?
              A sudaca. Which is basically the derogatory term Spaniards call Sth Americans.
              "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

              "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                Originally posted by Harv View Post
                A sudaca. Which is basically the derogatory term Spaniards call Sth Americans.
                due to their mixed heritage - it's a derogatory racial slur.

                I don't think either of them are racist - they're just a pair of win at all costs wind up merchants and should have been slapped with a ban and told that it's unacceptable and not to do it again.
                Tugay was reported by 5(?) players for racist abuse in a match before this incident and the FA did sweet FA.
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                  Originally posted by Alex View Post
                  I do too. Hes obviously not realised its culturally insensitive. Then when he has, he immediately removed it.

                  But the FA took a stance of zero tolerance. So what do they do?
                  To who though? Someone that speaks a different language and has taken offence because it sounds like another derogatory term?
                  "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                  "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                    Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
                    Despite using the same word, in its nature it's closer to Bernardo Silva's offence than Suarez's. I expect he'll get a one match ban and warning about future conduct, same as Silva did.
                    I suspect he'll get a toblerone and a pat on the back as it's Utd

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                      Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                      I suspect he'll get a toblerone and a pat on the back as it's Utd
                      And maybe an extra peno to ensure no one's feelings are offended.
                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        Originally posted by fidget View Post
                        A couple of definitions
                        Sudaca - (Spain, offensive, derogatory, vulgar, slang) A Hispanic American, more precisely a South American, especially one considered to have Amerindian features or a non-European accent; spic/spick.

                        Sudaca is a colloquial term, used as a short way to call people from South American origin mostly in Spain.
                        The term became dark and xenophobic in the '70s and '80s during an era called la Movida MadrileƱa due to the massive waves of Southamerican immigrants to Spain. Nowadays, all over the world, people feel proud to be called Sudaca, and unfortunately, some others don't.

                        So yeah - Evra started the ethnic slurs and mixed race Suarez carried it on.
                        A pair of windup merchants winding each other up then Suarez gets hanged for it by the not fit for purpose and systemically racist FA
                        Did he actually say it, or did we make the at up to defend Suarez? Can't see anything official about it.
                        I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

                        Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                          Originally posted by Harv View Post
                          To who though? Someone that speaks a different language and has taken offence because it sounds like another derogatory term?
                          People in this country think it is. So has to be handled as if it is.

                          I dont know enough about the word or the people it offends to be able to say it isnt.
                          *Except Michael, who died.

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                            Henderson now seems to regrets the support the team game to Suarez during that

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                              As mentioned though. We apologised to Evra over our handling of it. He was obviously offended. Even 10 years or so later he was clearly still bothered by the whole incident.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                Whilst I don't think Suarez should have been punished, nor do I think Cavani should be, for consistency, I believe he should receive something (perhaps not 8 games) because it would be complete double standards again. Obviously against us too. It's a widely used term, Suarez is a person of colour, so can't see them saying it in an obviously malicious manner (there are plenty of other words for that, should they intended it). If they do nothing, it means they have lost the tiny bit of integrity the ****wits were clawing onto.

                                I don't buy the culturally insensitive thing in England. It's not an English word that forms part of any culture in England. The misinterpretation of it doesn't ensure dark or cynical undertones.

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