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  • frank the tank
    Paisley
    • Mar 2008
    • 12892

    #31516
    They will have a decent season imo. The difference of not having European football will be huge. Approx half the teams will be in Europe next year while they have a week off in between games. From November to March that will be a huge advantage for them. Small squad required, not much rotation required. Against the bottom 8 or so teams that should help them in a big way both home and away

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    • BG1973
      Dalglish
      • Sep 2008
      • 3240

      #31517
      True but they have a manager under extreme pressure from the first kick.. if they start anything like they finished it could be very difficult for them very quickly.

      Which I think is going to happen.

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      • Sus
        Dalglish
        • Jul 2006
        • 3637

        #31518
        They are betting everything on this manager being the one to take them out of this ****show

        That’s a lot of pressure on him to deliver, and even if he is far better than what he has shown so far, there’s still the dysfunctional ownership, perilous financial position and toxic culture of the place

        It just feels a long way back for the club to be betting everything on the manager

        Really really really hope it goes tits up early in the season

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        • spud_gun
          Paisley
          • Jul 2006
          • 26519

          #31519
          They've got a hard start to the season

          Their first 5 games comprise of

          Arsenal Home
          Fulham Away
          Burnley Home
          Citeh Away
          Chelsea Home

          You could see them with 4 points from those games

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          • RedReet
            Fantasy Football Champion
            • Dec 2006
            • 25265

            #31520
            Originally posted by frank the tank
            They will have a decent season imo. The difference of not having European football will be huge. Approx half the teams will be in Europe next year while they have a week off in between games. From November to March that will be a huge advantage for them. Small squad required, not much rotation required. Against the bottom 8 or so teams that should help them in a big way both home and away
            Has that theory every been proved? Obviously it's very unusual for 'big' team not to be in Europe, but has there ever been a practical example to confirm that it actually is that much of a benefit?

            Don't get me wrong, the benefits are obvious, less travel, less matches, less burn out etc., but there are also downsides. There are less matches to keep squad players fit and healthy and less opportunities to develop younger players. Extra matches can help build momentum or help you get over a bad result. Similarly, a big win in Europe than lift the whole club and be the catalyst for better things.

            Also, teams have to make the most of the time off and training be effective. Some players may not react well to extra training and if the sessions are dull and/or ineffective, then that could even be detrimental. This should really show how good Amorim is. Most top players are also used to playing twice a week now and look after themselves better so again, it's not that much of an advantage.

            I think if there had of been international football on this summer, United might have benefitted a fair bit from not being in Europe, but as most players will have had a rare summer off, fatigue should be less of an issue next year (don't think United need to worry about City or Chelsea before anyone says ).
            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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            • RedReet
              Fantasy Football Champion
              • Dec 2006
              • 25265

              #31521
              Originally posted by spud_gun
              They've got a hard start to the season

              Their first 5 games comprise of

              Arsenal Home
              Fulham Away
              Burnley Home
              Citeh Away
              Chelsea Home

              You could see them with 4 points from those games
              Who on earth do you cheer for in week 1?
              If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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              • vlahka
                Still sulking...
                • Nov 2006
                • 5428

                #31522
                All draws would be good enough for me.

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                • Norbs
                  Big Girl's Blouse
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 42645

                  #31523
                  Originally posted by RedReet
                  Who on earth do you cheer for in week 1?
                  UNITED, cha cha cha, UNITED

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                  • Sus
                    Dalglish
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3637

                    #31524
                    Originally posted by RedReet
                    Has that theory every been proved? Obviously it's very unusual for 'big' team not to be in Europe, but has there ever been a practical example to confirm that it actually is that much of a benefit?

                    Don't get me wrong, the benefits are obvious, less travel, less matches, less burn out etc., but there are also downsides. There are less matches to keep squad players fit and healthy and less opportunities to develop younger players. Extra matches can help build momentum or help you get over a bad result. Similarly, a big win in Europe than lift the whole club and be the catalyst for better things.

                    Also, teams have to make the most of the time off and training be effective. Some players may not react well to extra training and if the sessions are dull and/or ineffective, then that could even be detrimental. This should really show how good Amorim is. Most top players are also used to playing twice a week now and look after themselves better so again, it's not that much of an advantage.

                    I think if there had of been international football on this summer, United might have benefitted a fair bit from not being in Europe, but as most players will have had a rare summer off, fatigue should be less of an issue next year (don't think United need to worry about City or Chelsea before anyone says ).
                    We nearly won the league in 2013/14 while only playing one game a week

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                    • SB
                      3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 36135

                      #31525
                      Originally posted by Sus
                      We nearly won the league in 2013/14 while only playing one game a week
                      Is that a Mikel Arteta quote ?
                      Me, I

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                      • Sus
                        Dalglish
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3637

                        #31526
                        Originally posted by SB
                        Is that a Mikel Arteta quote ?
                        Ha so rude grandpa

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                        • SB
                          3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 36135

                          #31527
                          Originally posted by Sus
                          Ha so rude grandpa
                          Me, I

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                          • RedReet
                            Fantasy Football Champion
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 25265

                            #31528
                            Originally posted by Sus
                            We nearly won the league in 2013/14 while only playing one game a week
                            Good shout.
                            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                            • frank the tank
                              Paisley
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 12892

                              #31529
                              Leicester surely the best example. I think they went out of both cups at the first hurdle that year too.

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                              • RedReet
                                Fantasy Football Champion
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 25265

                                #31530
                                Originally posted by frank the tank
                                Leicester surely the best example. I think they went out of both cups at the first hurdle that year too.
                                Not sure that does hold up for me. Of course there is no way they'd have won the league if they were playing European matches that season, but there are also a million other factors that contributed to that miracle. There are about 12 Leicester's every year that never come close to achieving what they did, that was just a completely random and unexpected turn of events.

                                Forest could have been a similar tale if they held on, but in the end they were caught by the bigger teams, ironically Chelsea in particular who finished strongly, despite still being in Europe.
                                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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