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  • BobTheCharmer
    Pantomime Villain
    • Jul 2006
    • 19183

    #3346
    Originally posted by tsb
    Wasn't everyone else in the league bound by these constraints anyway back then?
    yes but it didn't alter the fact that we had a large contingent of non english players. Souness went about it too quickly imo (I still reckon had saunders put away the penalty against city I think his career would have been up and running from the off) but the rules that summer had changed so we wouldn't have been able to play them all.
    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won

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    • dww
      humourless curmudgeon
      • Jul 2006
      • 29926

      #3347
      Originally posted by tsb
      Wasn't everyone else in the league bound by these constraints anyway back then?
      Yes, but the question was about how it impacted our squad remodeling - from my memory players like Staunton and Houghton were moved on with the rule said to play a part in the decision.
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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      • Fierce
        I'm only the bassist
        • Jul 2006
        • 15834

        #3348
        I think Moyes should be congratulated actually

        He spent 10 years trying to get Everton above Man United in the table and he's finally done it
        I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
        There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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        • Mattshark
          Still Blames Thatcher
          • Aug 2006
          • 24691

          #3349
          Originally posted by Deano
          No, it was the 3 + 2 rule in uk - We could field to assimilated players from the home nations only
          Our teams from the first prem season suggest otherwise. Grobbelaar, Piechnik, Molby and Rosenthal in our starting lineup away at United, not to mention Nicol, Hutchinson and Rush in the side.
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          • dww
            humourless curmudgeon
            • Jul 2006
            • 29926

            #3350
            Originally posted by Mattshark
            Our teams from the first prem season suggest otherwise. Grobbelaar, Piechnik, Molby and Rosenthal in our starting lineup away at United, not to mention Nicol, Hutchinson and Rush in the side.
            Would all have counted as UK wouldn't they?

            The other are harder to explain (unless Grobbelaar had been naturalized). It would be interesting to see what the actual rule was.
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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            • Mattshark
              Still Blames Thatcher
              • Aug 2006
              • 24691

              #3351
              Originally posted by dww
              Would all have counted as UK wouldn't they?

              The other are harder to explain (unless Grobbelaar had been naturalized). It would be interesting to see what the actual rule was.
              I think Deano is confusing the rules for European competition with the premier league rules. We also brought in Bjornebye that season and Kozma I think and we still had Whelan and Saunders in the team.

              In the Europe we could only play 3 non-English players, but no such restriction existed in the league until the 3 non-EU player rule was brought in 1999.
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              • G
                Paisley
                • Aug 2006
                • 16686

                #3352
                Souness started in 91-92, a season before the premier league began. We had 4 non Englishmen in our opening 2 fixtures. Haven't checked the rest. Lfc History app is great for this stuff.

                Of the big names let go, they all went that season bar Houghton who went in 92-93.

                I remember some sort of rule applying but I can't remember what it was. I think we all accept though that he let too many good players go in that first season and replaced them largely with poorer ones, and that's a recipe for failure.

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                • G
                  Paisley
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 16686

                  #3353
                  Deano is right. There was a domestic 3+2 rule in English leagues up until Mr. Bosman forced attitudes to change.

                  It's mentioned here

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                  • AnfieldForever
                    Has left his site in good hands...
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 6263

                    #3354
                    David Moyes: Champions League glory is always Manchester United's aim

                    David Moyes says he is targeting nothing less than Manchester United's third Champions League title this season.

                    Sir Alex Ferguson's successor appeared to play down United's chances of winning the competition at the weekend, admitting he does not have the "five or six world-class players" a victorious squad needs.

                    But ahead of Wednesday's Group A meeting with Shakhtar Donetsk, Moyes argued he would be defaulting on his duties as a United manager if he did not aim for glory in Lisbon next May.

                    "Of course we'll try to win the Champions League," said the Scot, who has overseen three defeats in his opening six Premier League games as boss.

                    "That's part of the job at Manchester United and I'll do everything I can to try to make that happen."

                    Rio Ferdinand has a minor groin injury and did not travel with the United squad, although Moyes was planning to rest the centre-half in any case.

                    "Rio has a slight groin problem," said the Scot. "It is nothing serious but I was never bringing him anyway."

                    Anderson, Fabio and Wilfried Zaha were also left in Manchester, but Robin van Persie is fit to start after coming off the bench during Saturday's defeat to West Brom.

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                    • Shaggy
                      Unidentified Rascal
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 135533

                      #3355
                      A few rumours that Moyes has a problem with Zaha and his attitude. There's a slightly more vicious rumour that Zaha is boning Moyes' daughter.
                      Thanks very much for being

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                      • Bender
                        Hodgsoned
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 37671

                        #3356
                        Originally posted by Shaggy
                        A few rumours that Moyes has a problem with Zaha and his attitude. There's a slightly more vicious rumour that Zaha is boning Moyes' daughter.
                        oh my Lord

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                        • -V-
                          Paisley
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 13049

                          #3357
                          I really hope they stick with him. Moyes needs time to establish his ways upon the team, they should give him some cash to spend and let him get on with the transformation

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                          • Rigadon
                            Shankly
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 6883

                            #3358
                            Originally posted by -V-
                            I really hope they stick with him. Moyes needs time to establish his ways upon the team, they should give him some cash to spend and let him get on with the transformation


                            Absolutely! They should give him at least three years and c£75m a year to spend.
                            Another MASSIVE game

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                            • BobTheCharmer
                              Pantomime Villain
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 19183

                              #3359
                              Originally posted by G
                              Deano is right. There was a domestic 3+2 rule in English leagues up until Mr. Bosman forced attitudes to change.

                              It's mentioned here

                              http://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/research-...national-game/
                              Of course he's right. Lad knows his stuff.
                              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won

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                              • Norbs
                                Big Girl's Blouse
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 42645

                                #3360
                                Originally posted by Fierce
                                I think Moyes should be congratulated actually

                                He spent 10 years trying to get Everton above Man United in the table and he's finally done it
                                What goes around, comes around

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