Manchester United

[Alex]

Are they on the decline, or is it a case of AF simply rebuilding again? Had this discussion the other night. A few of Man Utd fans I know now think Ferguson has had his years in the sun, and is not going to be the man too take them forward to another title.

Last season they were not good at all, best of a bad bunch really, this season they started well but have stuttered badly.

Thoughts


Did you know in the last 3 1/2 seasons Ferguson has names only 2 unchanged sides? Mad when you consider the stick Rafa and Ranieri got about rotation

[RichC]

I think it'll be hard for Fergie to build again now, age is going to go against him he's almost 70 now but hard to write him off completely.

As much as it pains me to say he's got an amazing knack of getting the very best out of his sides even when they're clearly not that good he finds a way to get them on a run of results I mean even this season they're still only 2 points of City whilst quality wise far,far inferior to them.

[Vermilion]

I think it'll be hard for Fergie to build again now, age is going to go against him he's almost 70 now but hard to write him off completely.

As much as it pains me to say he's got an amazing knack of getting the very best out of his sides even when they're clearly not that good he finds a way to get them on a run of results I mean even this season they're still only 2 points of City whilst quality wise far,far inferior to them.

Yep, but he also has an amazing knack of having his ****tier seasons/sides coincide with every other top team being in transition, or in turmoil one way or another!

Timing has been everything in his long reign, and not a lot of it planned that way either.

But yeah, grudgingly, he has done a decent job too, but by **** has he been lucky and helped along the way too.

[Shanks]

They need to spend on a creative midfileder and a striker..

Can't rely on Rooney..

If they don't, then they may start to slip away.. For the first time in a while teams will be going to OT knowing they can get something..

The problem is ours, Arsenal and Spurs inconsistency, that's keeping them were they are.

[PTP]

for years i've said united are starting to show cracks etc and they always come back!

****ing cunts!

i won't start believing it till it happens

the big thing is fergie and what he leaves behind - if he leaves a good squad, they have money to spend and bring in someone like Mourinho, then they will be ok...

however ideal situation would be that he goes, giggs retires, vidic leaves, rooney wants out, ferdinand moves on and they appoint someone like Moyes

[Lee]

I have nothing to add to this thread other than that they're a cunt of a club.

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[Alex]

I have nothing to add to this thread other than that they're a cunt of a club.

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Thanks for adding to the discussion.

[Lee]

To be honest mate I don't think they're on the decline at all. City and Spurs have got stronger, Arsenal got stronger under Wenger years ago and Chelsea have been a bit of a force since 2003.

Perhaps United haven't pulled away as far as they should have but they're still up there.

People thought they were on the decline when Cantona left, Stam, van Nistelrooy, Beckham etc. End of the day Ferguson - although he's a cunt - is a fantastic manager. I don't think they'll win the title this season or next (City will probably do that now), but they'll always finish top two or three.

[Alex]

To be honest mate I don't think they're on the decline at all. City and Spurs have got stronger, Arsenal got stronger under Wenger years ago and Chelsea have been a bit of a force since 2003.

Perhaps United haven't pulled away as far as they should have but they're still up there.

People thought they were on the decline when Cantona left, Stam, van Nistelrooy, Beckham etc. End of the day Ferguson - although he's a cunt - is a fantastic manager. I don't think they'll win the title this season or next (City will probably do that now), but they'll always finish top two or three.

People always thought that about us though.

[Lee]

People always thought that about us though.

Thanks for adding to the discussion.





They'll be top two or three for the foreseeable.

[dww]

Are they on the decline, or is it a case of AF simply rebuilding again? Had this discussion the other night. A few of Man Utd fans I know now think Ferguson has had his years in the sun, and is not going to be the man too take them forward to another title.

Last season they were not good at all, best of a bad bunch really, this season they started well but have stuttered badly.

Thoughts


Did you know in the last 3 1/2 seasons Ferguson has names only 2 unchanged sides? Mad when you consider the stick Rafa and Ranieri got about rotation

I think he thought Cleverly would go a long way to knitting their team together (and it looked like he was right before his injury). Since he has been out they have reverted to the dull team that won the league but was 3rd best to Barcelona in the CL final.

The problem is that there will be no big funds for a rebuild given their debt burden. The CM they need now more than ever with Fletchers injury will be very expensive. In the past one of Ferguson's biggest talents has been getting in and developing players with the right mentality. Very few good enough CMs with that knack around.

I honestly think given the circumstances he would do as well as anyone rebuilding the current side.

[JohnDoe]

They're on pace for over 90 points in the season. They're just two points off 1st place. They looked much worse last season and won the title.

I don't see a decline.

[Chris]

They're on pace for over 90 points in the season. They're just two points off 1st place. They looked much worse last season and won the title.

I don't see a decline.

Their squad clearly has been compared to previous years, you'd look around and see world class players eveywhere, VDS, Tevez, Ronaldo, Rooney, prime Ferdinand, prime Evra, you dont anymore. They still have plenty of quality though, are in a weak league and have that brilliant mentality which will keep them going for a while yet.

[RichC]

thing is even though their squad is weaker they still get the results.