To be fair,there was an article that said Van Persie himself was unhappy with said training methods and it was presumed that was what caused his current injury.Raymond whatshisname waded into the debate shortly after that,as he usually does when one of his fellow country men is wronged in his eyes.
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David Moyes rejected Sir Alex Ferguson's advice to retain his Manchester United backroom team, according to Eric Steele.
Former United goalkeeping coach Steele was axed by Moyes in the close season, along with assistant manager Mike Phelan and first-team coach Rene Meulensteen.
Moyes chose to bring Chris Woods, Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden with him from Everton, whilst also appointing former United and Toffees midfielder Phil Neville in his first full-time coaching role.
United's 2-1 home defeat by West Brom on Saturday means the club has now made its worst start to a league season for 24 years.
With the pressure already on Moyes right from the start of his Old Trafford reign, Steele has now revealed how the summers changes were handled.
"He spoke to me, Mick and Rene," Steele is quoted as telling fanzine United We Stand. "I told him I thought it was a brave decision.
"He listened to the manager's advice, but he wanted to be his own man."
Steele arrived at United in 2008, having previously worked at Manchester City, and is credited with turning David De Gea into one of the league's best goalkeepers after a shaky start.
The 59-year-old says he respects Moyes' decision but is not convinced it was right for the club.
"I didn't want to leave. Why would I?" he added. "I knew that David was coming in and wondered who he'd bring.
"You had the United perspective - the manager saying, 'Keep what we've got, keep the continuity, work with them and they'll guide you through. You're taking on a massive machine here. You've gone from Marks and Spencer's to Harrods.'
"Then there's David's viewpoint, which I understand. I know him professionally. I know his work ethic, his hands-on approach.
"I don't blame him for doing what he did. I've been in the game long enough to know how it is.
"But it's ironic, isn't it? You've just been part of a team that has had a great season and won the league. David De Gea's had his best season. Does it make sense that you're not retained to continue the good work? Sadly, that's out of my hands."
Winners remain
United find themselves in 12th spot in the Premier League table after six games, eight points off the pace set by leaders Arsenal.
Despite the upheaval at Old Trafford, Steele still thinks the personnel in Moyes' squad will start producing better results.
"There were massive changes - the manager, chief executive, Scholes retiring and the coaches," said Steele.
"But there are enough players in that dressing room to win when it really starts.
"My time was up, I'm proud of what I did at United and I have great memories."
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Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!
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I think Everton is More Aldi than Marks and Spencers though,_____________________________________
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Originally posted by Muddled View Post
Couldnt agree more. If Carrick or Felani pick up any sort of medium to longish term injury, then they are royally ****ed. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of cunts.
DALGLISH !! :respect
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David Moyes rejected Sir Alex Ferguson's advice to retain his Manchester United backroom team, according to Eric Steele
we can add this to the list.....it also shows we can add another to the list...
no way would this sort of article come out under ferguson! either the staff (be it ex or current) would be too scared to say it, or if they did, the press would be too scared to print it
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Still too early to write the *******s off IMOMy kebab comes with chilli sauceComment
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It is, but its great to see the kunjars having this mini crisis."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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He's more Poundland than Aldi mateWas muß, das muß.Comment
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Depends how reactive they are. Assuming he flops this season badly, if they give him another season then they will be in trouble. But they have a fantastic brand and good income. Don't think their demise will be as bad as ours was.My kebab comes with chilli sauceComment
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Moyes binning the entire United back room staff could be as monumental as Demento himself stepping down.
It would appear that Dave Davey has gone OTT trying to prove that 'he is his own man'
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I can't get over that utd PR piece defending their transfer window when it said they decided against signing their long term target Thiago because Moyes didn't know enough about him.Originally posted by Molby View Post
Couldnt agree more. If Carrick or Felani pick up any sort of medium to longish term injury, then they are royally ****ed. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of cunts.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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Manchester United have 'alarm bells ringing', says Alan Hansen
Manchester United risk repeating errors which led to Liverpool's problems in the early 1990s, says Alan Hansen.
Hansen was part of the title-winning Liverpool side of 1990, but they have failed to win the league since.
New United boss David Moyes made just one notable summer signing in Marouane Fellaini, and his side have made their worst league start for 24 years.
"Liverpool began to flounder because they failed to replace good players with better ones," said Hansen.
The former Scotland defender added: "The club has paid a heavy price in the two decades since."
United won the Premier League last season under Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired at the end of the campaign and recommended fellow Scot Moyes as his successor.
But the 50-year-old has had a tough first three months in charge at Old Trafford.
United failed in their attempts to sign Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas in the summer and were also unsuccessful in moves for Everton defender Leighton Baines, Athletic Bilbao midfielder Ander Herrera and Real Madrid left-back Fabio Coentrao.
The Red Devils were also linked with Barcelona midfielder Thiago Alacantara, who chose to join Bayern Munich.
Moyes's side have lost three of their opening six league games to make their worst start to a top-flight campaign since the 1989-90 season.
"It is too early to say we are now witnessing the end of the empire at Old Trafford," said Hansen in his weekly column for the Daily Telegraph.
"But alarm bells are ringing and there are clear similarities between the United of 2013 and the last Liverpool team to win the title back in 1990.
"I played in that Liverpool team 23 years ago and it was in the bottom three of the eight title-winning sides I played in at Anfield.
"It was an ageing team, one which Kenny Dalglish was looking to break up and build again with new players. In the past the club had successfully combined winning and rebuilding, but this time was different."
The Match of the Day pundit, 58, added: "United have more depth and quality than the 1990 Liverpool side, but I would say that the two first teams are comparable in terms of the issues they faced.
"Both could be described as ageing teams that needed breaking up, but with issues over those brought in as younger replacements."
United lost 2-1 to West Brom on Saturday and face a testing trip to Shakhtar Donetsk in a Champions League group game on Wednesday.
Their start to the season is the worst by the defending champions since Blackburn Rovers in 1995, when former England striker Alan Shearer played for the Ewood Park club.
"We, too, had changed managers as Ray Harford was promoted. He, too, did not get enough new players in," said Shearer, 43.
"He wanted to give the current ones the chance to prove themselves under him. It didn't work.
"Champions still need to be tested and have their places under threat."
Shearer, also a pundit on Match of the Day, believes United are "an ordinary team" without the influence of Ferguson.
But he added: "Right now, everyone needs patience. Moyes, for me, is the right man.
"The players need to rediscover the spirit that used to drag them to victory no matter what.
"They are vulnerable at the minute and every team in the Premier League knows it. The air of invincibility has gone."What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins
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We replaced a fantastic manager, Kenny with a **** one, Souness. We replaced a fantastic manager Rafa, with a **** one, Roy.
Man U replaced, well a fantastic manager DBF, with a **** one, Moyes.
It is the manager that build the squad and if he isn't good enough then the excellent players won't be excellent anymore and the very good ones won't be very good etc.
Players hear about it and picks other clubs.
Out there Moyes is a manager many of the top class players never heard off before he moved to United. They won't risk their careers playing for a manager they know nothing about.
The players will start to moan big time and Moyes will be sacked IMO. The players won't fear him and the big egos will rule the dressing room.Stop the cyberhate
from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a 
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At that time Souness was not **** FFS. He was as good a choice as any and a huge success at Rangers. Get your facts right Arn please.Originally posted by Arn View Post
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I'm trying hard not to act like John Lovitz character from the Wedding Singer.
"He's losing his mind and I'm reaping the benefits".
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