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Manchester United striker Robin van Persie ruled out of tomorrow's match vs West Ham with a knee injury.
mufc boss on today's European draw vs @FCBayernEN: "It's a tough one but we're looking forward to it."
More on RvP's injury: "We're getting Robin re-scanned today. We're not quite conclusive on everything we've seen."
On the Man U thing. That was used long before the Munich disaster, and was on the pins, badges, and scarves being sold back then.
A shop/shed that was owned by none other than Matt Busby himself (His son Sandy ran it at one point as well) in the 1960's had various merchandise for sale that used the Man U abbreviation. Their megastore now stands where that little shed used to be. If the term was good enough for Matt Busby to use, then I am pretty sure it was not regarded as a slur on those that lost their lives at Munich.
The use of Manure on the other hand did originate afaik from a vile song about Munich, and if that term causes them the same sort of offence that the Hillsborough slurs cause us, then it should be dropped and anyone using it should be educated as to why not to chant it.
I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness
Manchester United manager David Moyes says he has been 'ashamed' of some of his team's displays
David Moyes says he was happy to be able to 'look supporters in the face' after win over Olympiakos and team can beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League
By Mark Ogden3:39PM GMT 21 Mar 2014
David Moyes has admitted to feeling "ashamed" by some of Manchester United’s performances this season but claims the Champions League quarter-final draw against Bayern Munich is proof of his team turning a corner.
Moyes, who takes United to West Ham on Saturday evening, banished speculation over his job prospects by guiding the club to a 3-0 Champions League victory against Olympiakos on Wednesday.
The win ultimately secured United a last eight tie against European and world champions Bayern, but after experiencing the euphoria of defeating Olympiakos, Moyes admits it was a rare moment of joy following a season of lows at Old Trafford.
“The big thing was that I could look the supporters in the face after the game on Wednesday night,” Moyes said. “I thought that we had given them something to shout about and we had nothing to be ashamed of in our performances.
“In some of the other games, I’ve felt ashamed because the team haven’t played well enough and I haven’t got a team out that has got a good enough result.
“Our form hasn’t been consistent enough or our performances haven’t been consistent enough. We’ve shown some top performances and then some really low performances.
“We’ve got to get better at that but it’s going to take time, we’re not going to be able to do everything immediately and because of the period we’re in that’s happening a little bit.
“A good one and then a bad one at times and my job over the years ahead is to make sure we get rid of that.”
Moyes, who confirmed that Robin van Persie will miss the trip to West Ham with a knee injury sustained against Olympiakos, insists United can confound the odds by eliminating Bayern to reach the Champions League semi-finals.
“It’s a really tough draw for us but one I’m looking forward to,” Moyes said.
“People asked me the question about being inexperienced and not having any Champions League experience so I was amazed that none of you asked me the question the other night.
“It must have slipped your minds ... but I said before that I’d watched enough games and seen enough Champions League football and hopefully watched so much football that I know a bit about it.
“But I got help from a lot of people around me – I said I would do that – and thankfully we’ve got ourselves to the quarter-finals but hopefully we can get to the semi-finals.”
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