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  • Robbie-9-Fowler
    Shankly
    • Jun 2008
    • 9213

    #10891
    He's a very, very good player IMO.

    What he'll do is add that pace their attack is badly missing and might allow them to revert to a 433, although players like RVP/Rooney/Mata would have to miss out then.
    Vive la France

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    • john316
      Dalglish
      • Apr 2007
      • 3596

      #10892
      He's a fantastic player. It's just a totally stupid signing that screams like a Galactico-like recruitment policy. Sign a big name first and worry about the place in the team secondly.

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      • Robbie-9-Fowler
        Shankly
        • Jun 2008
        • 9213

        #10893
        Originally posted by john316
        He's a fantastic player. It's just a totally stupid signing that screams like a Galactico-like recruitment policy. Sign a big name first and worry about the place in the team secondly.
        I'm not so sure..

        -------------De Gea
        Rafael---Jones---Rojo---Shaw
        ---------Herera--Carrick
        ----Mata----Rooney--Di Maria
        ---------------RVP

        That has a pretty good shape too it, still plenty of weakness there but its definitely an improvement. Rafael is always injured, Jones is a joke, Carrick ageing, Rojo completely unproven at a decent level as a CB.
        Vive la France

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        • Chazza
          Des Lynam
          • Jan 2007
          • 31141

          #10894
          But they are going to play with a back 3?

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          • Leyton388
            aka liverpooltj
            • Jul 2007
            • 26044

            #10895
            Let them go blow the best part of £50m on a player they do not need. Fantastic. They haven't addressed any of the serious issues their squad has. Personally i don't think he'll be all that in this league. Remember people banging on about Ozil and he's turning out to be average at best.

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            • Robbie-9-Fowler
              Shankly
              • Jun 2008
              • 9213

              #10896
              Originally posted by Chazza
              But they are going to play with a back 3?
              Van Gaal has said he's playing 3 at the back because he doesn't have the players available to him to be able to play the 433 he's played throughout his career. The reason he played 3 CBs at the world cup was because of the players in his squad and the lack of quality in defence.
              Vive la France

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              • Jaymo
                Dalglish
                • Dec 2007
                • 2031

                #10897
                The way van Gaal is looking to play they really haven't recruited well. The front 4 is as good as anyone else, but the rest isn't worth a top 4 finish.

                -------------De Gea-------------
                ------Jones--Evans--Rojo--------
                Rafael----------------------Shaw
                --------Herrera---Mata---------
                Di Maria-------RVP--------Rooney?

                They're pretty weak in the centre of midfield and at the back, see how it pans out for them but they really need to replace what they've lost in Vidic and Ferdinand.

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                • Robbie-9-Fowler
                  Shankly
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 9213

                  #10898
                  Originally posted by Leyton388
                  Let them go blow the best part of £50m on a player they do not need. Fantastic. They haven't addressed any of the serious issues their squad has. Personally i don't think he'll be all that in this league. Remember people banging on about Ozil and he's turning out to be average at best.
                  I think this league requires pace and work rate first and foremost, you don't get to just turn up walk about and let your ability shine when teams stand off. Ozil suffers because he literally walks, Di Maria is hard working so I can't see him having the same issues.
                  Vive la France

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                  • Chazza
                    Des Lynam
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 31141

                    #10899
                    Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler
                    Van Gaal has said he's playing 3 at the back because he doesn't have the players available to him to be able to play the 433 he's played throughout his career. The reason he played 3 CBs at the world cup was because of the players in his squad and the lack of quality in defence.
                    He won the champions league with Ajax playing a back 3.

                    It makes less sense with the players he has available to him to have been playing a back 3 and not a back 4.

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                    • Robbie-9-Fowler
                      Shankly
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 9213

                      #10900
                      Originally posted by Chazza
                      He won the champions league with Ajax playing a back 3.

                      It makes less sense with the players he has available to him to have been playing a back 3 and not a back 4.
                      I can't be arsed to find the quote but its what he actually said, I don't have the players at my disposal to play 433.

                      The Champions League win was 20 years ago, the vast majority of his career he's played 433, if he moves back to that tactic then I think the addition of Di Maria is a very good one.
                      Vive la France

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                      • Leyton388
                        aka liverpooltj
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 26044

                        #10901
                        Would be hilarious if city or Chelsea hijacked this deal

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                        • Saveloy
                          Expect the Wurst
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5781

                          #10902
                          Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler
                          Van Gaal has said he's playing 3 at the back because he doesn't have the players available to him to be able to play the 433 he's played throughout his career. The reason he played 3 CBs at the world cup was because of the players in his squad and the lack of quality in defence.
                          I'm sure I read a really **** newspaper article by Gary Neville recently where he met van Gaal, and despite his stumbling copy, I'm pretty sure the Neville managed to get across the fact that vg's philosophy is playing 3-5-2

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                          • john316
                            Dalglish
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 3596

                            #10903
                            [ame="https://twitter.com/jnorthcroft/status/503311636355371008"]https://twitter.com/jnorthcroft/status/503311636355371008[/ame]

                            Oh just like apparently Kroos/Muller where Man Utd decided not to sign them....

                            Sure....

                            They spend the whole summer chasing Vidal but only just realised that LVG didn't want him. How careless of Woodward....
                            Last edited by john316; 23-08-14, 10:59 PM.

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                            • RichC
                              Meh
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 37415

                              #10904
                              I've had Manc mates bemoaning the lack of spending on players and the Glaziers are asset stripping etc...

                              Quite amusing when you point out the amount of cash they've spent on pure muck over the past few windows

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                              • Fredo
                                Not to be taken seriously
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 35173

                                #10905
                                Di Maria is a very good player though. They're paying over the odds but they'll be having a good player. They could rebuild by going 'our way', but there is no chance that is going to happen with their fanbase.
                                Are we winning?

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