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  • RedReet
    Fantasy Football Champion
    • Dec 2006
    • 25265

    #13276
    Ha! I was never a big fan personally, but some on here would have had you beleiving he was better than Messi.
    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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    • dww
      humourless curmudgeon
      • Jul 2006
      • 29926

      #13277
      I think both Benteke and Kane are really good players but neither have played in a top team or been judged by the standards of a top player in one which makes it hard to know exactly how good they really are. Neither strike me as obviously in a different league to Bony who went for what £25m?
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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      • Vermilion
        Shooterista
        • Dec 2007
        • 32026

        #13278
        Originally posted by RedReet
        It's hard to value him. For £40m you'd expect someone with blistering pace that defenders can't deal with or amazing South American skill, but he has neither of those. He's always reminded me of Kuyt (which is why I like him ), but is probably a better finisher and that always adds £££'s to the value.

        Be interesting to see how he does next year when he's not an unknown quantity, wouldn't be surprised for him to have second season syndrome like Townsend.
        Don't think Shearer was particularly renowned for either, but he scored lots of goals, and that's what matters most with a striker imo.

        Think that's the attraction of Kane. Whether he'll keep it up is another question, a big one too.
        Last edited by Vermilion; 15-05-15, 10:22 AM.

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        • Doc_Piptorious
          • Jul 2006
          • 40258

          #13279
          Think Kane may go on to be a pretty good striker. Think his best quality, outside of his finishing, is his reading of the game. For such a young player he makes some really clever runs and by doing so he knows that guys like Eriksen will find him time after time.

          He is the type of player that our own Coutinho would love to have playing in front of him imo.


          Kane is not too shabby when it comes to being the recipient of more direct play either.


          I don't think he will repeat his goal output of this season again next season, but think he could be a regular 1 in 2 man for Spurs as his career goes on, and have a feeling he would do likewise if he went to a better team.
          I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


          Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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          • Vermilion
            Shooterista
            • Dec 2007
            • 32026

            #13280
            Seems to be, according to those that know him; a level headed hard working type of person too.

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            • BobTheCharmer
              Pantomime Villain
              • Jul 2006
              • 19183

              #13281
              If you let it get to you, its ****ing depressing all this money the scummy ****s can pay out on players whilst we are scrimping around on hopefuls. Its why top level football is dying for me.

              I've accepted last season was our one chance for the foreseeable to win the title against the odds. We ****ed it and life goes on.

              No matter what though, no matter where I am, who I'm with or how old I am, I will always hate and detest everything and everyone connected with those cunts at old Trafford. That's the one consistent thing in life.
              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won

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              • Maxiedge
                Shankly
                • Jun 2007
                • 7769

                #13282
                Originally posted by Vermilion
                Don't think Shearer was particularly renowned for either, but he scored lots of goals, and that's what matters most with a striker imo.

                Think that's the attraction of Kane. Whether he'll keep it up is another question, a big one too.

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                • tanner
                  Dalglish
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 2477

                  #13283
                  Originally posted by RedReet
                  I like Kane, but £40m after one good season is ridiculous.
                  You'd have to be mad to spend £40m on a one season wonder

                  Luckily, we only spent £35m on Carroll.
                  SakhoPotatoes

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                  • ntto
                    Dalglish
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2965

                    #13284
                    Originally posted by tanner
                    You'd have to be mad to spend £40m on a one season wonder

                    Luckily, we only spent £35m on Carroll.
                    he was only a half a season wonder at the time

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                    • RedReet
                      Fantasy Football Champion
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 25265

                      #13285
                      Originally posted by ntto
                      he was only a half a season wonder at the time
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                      • danperkins
                        Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                        • May 2010
                        • 50411

                        #13286
                        Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
                        Think Kane may go on to be a pretty good striker. Think his best quality, outside of his finishing, is his reading of the game. For such a young player he makes some really clever runs and by doing so he knows that guys like Eriksen will find him time after time.

                        He is the type of player that our own Coutinho would love to have playing in front of him imo.


                        Kane is not too shabby when it comes to being the recipient of more direct play either.


                        I don't think he will repeat his goal output of this season again next season, but think he could be a regular 1 in 2 man for Spurs as his career goes on, and have a feeling he would do likewise if he went to a better team.
                        very good young player.

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                        • Daniel 7
                          Heretic
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 24088

                          #13287
                          Nah, I'm not buying this Kane is amazing sentiment at all.

                          I can't help but think he's benefitting from the surprise effect, teams haven't known much about him and not set up specifically to stop him, much the same as when some strikers have made the step up from the second tier after promotion and banged in their best ever haul - like Andy Carroll, Marcus Stewart or Kevin Phillips, or even Heskey in the 2000/01 season.

                          I think he'll score goals, but he'll never match this season and will probably end up being a 10-15 a season man tops.
                          Last edited by Daniel 7; 15-05-15, 01:02 PM.

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                          • Fosterbloke
                            Run the Jewels
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 39095

                            #13288
                            At least Shearer had youth team pedigree and set records right up to his full season debut and onwards. I'm glad he never joined the Mancs.
                            Was mu

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                            • Doc_Piptorious
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 40258

                              #13289
                              Originally posted by Daniel 7
                              Nah, I'm not buying this Kane is amazing sentiment at all.

                              I can't help but think he's benefitting from the surprise effect, teams haven't known much about him and not set up specifically to stop him, much the same as when some strikers have made the step up from the second tier after promotion and banged in their best ever haul - like Andy Carroll, Marcus Stewart or Kevin Phillips, or even Heskey in the 2000/01 season.

                              I think he'll score goals, but he'll never match this season and will probably end up being a 10-15 a season man tops.


                              And how exactly would they have to specifically set up to stop him?

                              He is not a very pacy player that can be countered by sitting deeper.

                              He is not a skillful player that would require man marking.

                              He is not a powerhouse player that needs to be met like for like.


                              What he does well are the basics of the game, and he appears to have above average positional sense along with good finishing. He also appears to be the sort that works harder to compensate for any short comings in his game.


                              I don't think he is ever going to be an amazing player who will repeat this season's return over and over, but as said in my earlier post it would not surprise me to see him develop into a 1 in 2 striker if he stays in teams of the level of Spurs or better.


                              Could see him possibly turning into a Kuyt type player but one who has a better goals to games return in England than Kuyt did. Although I suspect that Kuyt might have had a better goal return for us if he had not been played in a wide role s often as he was.
                              I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


                              Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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                              • Doc_Piptorious
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 40258

                                #13290
                                Originally posted by foresterbloke
                                At least Shearer had youth team pedigree and set records right up to his full season debut and onwards. I'm glad he never joined the Mancs.

                                Not really worth much though in terms of judging a player.


                                For every Michael Owen that bangs in goals at youth level you get a Neil Mellor that bangs in goals at youth level and also at reserve level.
                                I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


                                Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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