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The trojan horse Mourinho - in depth analysis
Ok, I'm done with the club right now. This situation is actually far worse than the Moyes one. In Moyes we had a charlatan - however, he wanted to do his best and had intentions to win and take the club forward. He just didn't have the knowledge or tools to do so. He set us back to a level that can be compared to Tottenham 10 years ago.
LVG - as usual he will look even better when you look at it in hindsight. He's growing for every minute now and I wouldn't be surprised to see a little chapter on him in the club's cabinet. With only a bit of luck there might even been a small statue - of course not the size of the biggest legends, but something like a face sculpture. We could discuss this matter for a lifetime without reaching a conclusion. Let's just leave it with a FA cup title. People seem to underestimate the difficulty with reaching to the very top in that competition. It's one hell of an achievement!
So let's go over to Mourinho. Last night he really shocked me. I've gone from hating him to fearing him. It all started getting spooky when we lost to Feyenoord in september, right after a horrible defeat to City. I said then that was the worse performance in our club's history. It was just unreal. We followed that up with a 3-1 loss vs Watford :houllier: SAF would never have had that. He'd be fuming after the City loss and go on to win 5-6 games in a row!!
So just what the hell is going on? I'll tell you my thoughts.
Guys, I'm afraid we've got ourself a full blooded psychopath as a manager. If you look at his behavior at the club it's unheard of. Yes, LVG had his **** with Di Maria and Memphis, but never did he let it get personal. I'm talking about Schweinsteiger here. This has become a virus in the club and we are now seeing the results of it. Mourinho is not a team builder - he's a freaking monster. He's constantly seeking for confrontation to scare the players at his own club, opposition club or people associated with football in any way. He started out softly with including Rooney etc, but it was always in the plan to overtake the power at the club.
At Madrid he went straight into the wall. He went into a fight with Cassillias and we all know how that ended. The club was in deep trouble for a long while until they got rid of him. At Chelsea it continued. This is because of some mental problem he's been getting of lately. Just listen to the way he talks, he just can't behave in the public room, he's just got to attack referees or players or even his staff. He needs house-training right now.
I called this before we signed him and had to retreat from that opinion right away after being HATE ATTACKED by the CAF!! I wanted to hang on to LVG. I saw the trouble coming from a mile away with that staff bull**** at Chelsea. And look at where we are now. IN DEEP ****. And it will get worse. He's now buying himself time by taking Schweinsteiger back into training in the frist team. I bet Schweiny is just in there to get more humiliation.
This freak is so sick that he even signs players that he can bully if there are not enough victims in the club. Take Mhiki for example last night. WHAT THE feck WAS THAT CONTRIBUTE MORE BULL****?? :eek:
He knows he's lost right now. Just where the hell is he heading after a failure at our club? No big club will want him and he will never take on a **** job. Unfortunately we're stuck with him because we're already paying wages for both Moyes and LVG and can never afford having a third guy on the payroll + new manager (and who the hell would be the new manager????). I think this will cost us millions of pounds and will take years to repair - if it's even possible to do. RIP MAN UNITED!!!!
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Moyes contract got settled, although it was rumoured to be more than £10m in the end, if i recall if he had seen the season out, the clauses would have worked in his favour and he would have left with circa £30m. Then he had the Spanish gig, but a €2m a season he got paid in full.
LVG's contract got settled this season (FY), but Joese got/had a £4m retainer from Jan this year to July not to sign for anyone else.I make no apologies, this is me
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Originally posted by Deano View Post****ing brilliant isn't itOriginally posted by Cormack74 View PostHaha I hadn't considered they might be still paying Moyes and LVG though in Moyes' case it would be offset by the fact that Sunderland are now paying him to **** things up too.
What a car crash OT is becoming. Long may it last.
Oh I don't know.
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PL goals in October
Chelsea - 11
Arsenal - 8
Bournemouth - 8
Liverpool - 8
Stoke City - 8
Manchester City - 6
Everton - 4
Leicester City - 4
Southampton - 4
Swansea City - 4
Tottenham Hotspur - 4
Watford - 4
Burnley - 3
Crystal Palace - 3
Middlesbrough - 3
West Bromwich Albion - 3
West Ham United - 3
Sunderland - 2
Hull City - 1
Manchester United - 1
* The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
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The rifts are everywhere. Shocking man management from 'the special ****' pandering to the aging primadona Zlatan.
Agent: Manchester United 'disrespected' Anthony Martial
Manchester United forward Anthony Martial does a better celebration after scoring during his side's Premier League clash with Stoke City at Old Trafford on October 2, 2016
By Daniel Lewis, Football League Correspondent
Filed: Friday, November 4, 2016 at 22:06 UK
Last Updated: Friday, November 4, 2016 at 22:09 UK
Anthony Martial was left 'surprised and disappointed' by Manchester United's decision to take the number nine shirt away from him during the summer, according to the player's agent.
The arrival of superstar forward Zlatan Ibrahimovic from Paris Saint-Germain during the off-season saw the Frenchman swap to No.11 instead.
Martial, who joined United for an initial sum of £36m in August 2015, has struggled to find his best form so far this campaign under Jose Mourinho which has led to suggestions that he will be sold in the New Year.
Agent Philippe Lamboley has done little to quell the talk of a move away, insisting that his client was 'disrespected' by United when asked to swap jerseys.
"I am not going to lie about it, it hurt him when Manchester United took the number nine jersey off him. He was surprised by it and he was disappointed for a few days," he told RMC.
"But he is a professional. He knew that he had to fight back. Personally, I did not accept the decision, which I thought was disrespectful and misplaced. I let the United hierarchy know how I felt. You do not do things like that. We have turned the page, but not forgotten about it."
Despite the bad blood, Lamboley says that Martial's relationship with Mourinho remains "professional" as he attempts to force his way into regular first-team contention.
"It is not true that Anthony has a bad relationship with Mourinho," he added. "They have a professional relationship. I'm sure Mourinho will get the best out of him, just like Louis van Gaal did before him.
"Anthony is happy at United. We are trying to get out of a bad spell, he is no longer smiling all the time. People who know him know that he likes to smile."
Martial has started four Premier League games for United this season and featured a further three times from the bench, scoring one goal and assisting two others.Modifying post.
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