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Ha ha ha ha lavli! He'll get them dickheads relegated.
Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.
I dunno, I expect there could be a short-term uplift, potentially. A few of them have something to 'prove', especially Pogba, in regards to Maureen so I can see them stepping up their game. Hopefully just enough that they get brought on permanently...
I cant believe this is the best plan they can come up with. They are essentially writing the season off and looking to sweep the decks for a new manager to come in the summer. Could have at least had a crack to win the CL with an old head in charge.
A new manager who will have no CL football, will be looking at City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs to compete with in the league. I'm not sure what kind of manager/player they will be able to lure tbh, I think Blanc may have turned his nose up at the temp job and will get the permanent job if everyone decent rejects it.
Woodward is thinking he'll bring the fans onside with these lads in the dugout but when it continues to go tits up this season, he wont have Mourinho to take the heat and it will be cranked on him.
I've no idea how much we are paying Michael Edwards but we should tie him down before they even think to poach him to restructure the club.
Old Trafford will be a graveyard for managers and players until Ed Woodward steps aside
WAYNE FARRY
There has been one common denominator at Old Trafford over the struggles of the past five years
Throughout the painful tenures of David Moyes, Louis van Gaal and Jose Mourinho; among the criticism of the managers themselves and the sub-standard performances of players, one shadow has loomed large in the background.
It is the shadow of Ed Woodward, a man who has his fingers in all of the pies at Manchester United and is a trusted employee of the owners, the Glazer family.
Woodward is a competent businessman who has achieved success outside of football. He was given a role in Manchester United's financial department after advising the Glazers during their takeover, before assuming the lead operational role at Old Trafford following the retirement of former CEO David Gill.
But having an impressive CV away from the game doesn't render him qualified to oversee football operations, especially at a club which has for decades considered itself the biggest and best in the world.
Woodward's tenure at Old Trafford has made it clear that he believes this mantra; he believes that Manchester United are the biggest and best club in the world.
The problem is that Woodward's reign has also made it clear that he is significantly more concerned with making sure as many people as possible know Manchester United are the biggest and best club in the world, rather than ensuring that selling point remains true on the pitch.
To the Woodward breed of chief executive - with no history or prior experience in football - the brand is everything. What's the point in winning the league if you've got **** all followers on Twitter to tell about it?
It is a scourge which is gradually taking over the game, and can be seen on the identikit social media accounts of the world's biggest teams, creating an environment in which impressions and engagement appear to be almost as important as what happens on the pitch.
But while the world's other top clubs have proven they can manage brand growth alongside the pursuit of major honours, Woodward's time at Old Trafford has shown that he is incapable of doing that.
This is evidenced by pretty much every decision made by the club's hierarchy since the departure of Gill. The football side of things takes a backseat to commercial dealings, resulting in a team that is already 19 points behind leaders Liverpool.
It leads to short term thinking, no further than the next quarterly results meeting at least, and it is the reason that anger at the players and the managers will be futile and misguided while the current structure continues.
Are the players underperforming? Yes. Was Jose Mourinho the right man for the club? Certainly not. Will replacing either truly change things? Not a chance, if the last few years serve as any indication.
There is a place for people from outside the world of football at football clubs. They can broaden the thought processes of previously insular institutions to see the bigger picture.
But when expansion comes at the cost of what made that club an institution in the first place, it is not worth the sacrifice, no matter how many noodle or premium petrol partners you can command.
That is the state of things currently at Manchester United, and the club will continue to be a soulless husk, wandering through a fog of mediocrity and commercial spreadsheets until there is a fundamental change from top to bottom.
Whilst I agree that Woodward is a major part of the problem (as are the bloodsucking leaches that are the Glazers), I don't agree with the wider sentiment. There are plenty of people with a career of football behind them in various roles that have made and will continue to make a pigs ear of running football clubs.
I cant believe this is the best plan they can come up with. They are essentially writing the season off and looking to sweep the decks for a new manager to come in the summer. Could have at least had a crack to win the CL with an old head in charge.
A new manager who will have no CL football, will be looking at City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs to compete with in the league. I'm not sure what kind of manager/player they will be able to lure tbh, I think Blanc may have turned his nose up at the temp job and will get the permanent job if everyone decent rejects it.
Woodward is thinking he'll bring the fans onside with these lads in the dugout but when it continues to go tits up this season, he wont have Mourinho to take the heat and it will be cranked on him.
I've no idea how much we are paying Michael Edwards but we should tie him down before they even think to poach him to restructure the club.
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