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So there are question marks over 6/8 PL title winners between Man Utd winning in 2010-11 and us winning in 2019-20.

Good process

[SB]

Yep questions that will never be answered ££££££££££££££££ kerching

[Mark79]

This thread even has some other details that they couldn’t fit into the story

[ame]https://twitter.com/byrobdavies/status/1724673593785692377[/ame]

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Top level football is absolutely rotten to the core.

Every top flight league has varying degrees of bad actors who're mired in corruption & financial chicanery

England - Citeh, Chelsea
France - PSG
Spain - Barcelona
Germany - RB Leipzig
Italy - Juventus

No doubt there's a lot more but that's just off the top of my head

[Irishnev]

Top level football is absolutely rotten to the core.

Every top flight league has varying degrees of bad actors who're mired in corruption & financial chicanery

England - Citeh, Chelsea
France - PSG
Spain - Barcelona
Germany - RB Leipzig
Italy - Juventus

No doubt there's a lot more but that's just off the top of my head

RBL aren’t the same as the others, yes they have a multi club arrangement that isn’t typically German but they are very well run and self sufficient

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RBL aren’t the same as the others, yes they have a multi club arrangement that isn’t typically German but they are very well run and self sufficient

RBL are at the forefront of what is rotten in modern football.

[Kenneth]

Top level football is absolutely rotten to the core.

Every top flight league has varying degrees of bad actors who're mired in corruption & financial chicanery

England - Citeh, Chelsea
France - PSG
Spain - Barcelona
Germany - RB Leipzig
Italy - Juventus

No doubt there's a lot more but that's just off the top of my head

You can add Everton and their sanctioned Russian oligarch pulling the strings.

[Charly]

RBL are at the forefront of what is rotten in modern football.

They havent broken any rules. They havent spent billions. Theybarent funded by a governmenr or blood money.

They may have bought their way up the league, but they have done it in the "right" way from what I can tell.

Call it rotten, but the reality is you need money (well spent) to compete, and they are hardly Man City or PSG.

[Irishnev]

They havent broken any rules. They havent spent billions. Theybarent funded by a governmenr or blood money.

They may have bought their way up the league, but they have done it in the "right" way from what I can tell.

Call it rotten, but the reality is you need money (well spent) to compete, and they are hardly Man City or PSG.

Ya, I agree with this. I’ve no issue with anyone succeeding whilst they play within the rules.

I get the animosity towards them in Germany as they are the antithesis of typical fan owned German clubs. They move players around their multi club structures like commodities and offload them when they are no good but this is still playing within the rules and making them compete.

I’d go as far as saying they have the ideal structure in place, driven by analytics and good scouting which help them succeed.

The others on the list are financial cheats and match fixers - no the same ball park

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You don't find the notion that a multi-national can buy the registration a 5th tier club, change their name and wipe out their identify and then financially dope them to the upper echelons of European football even slightly galling?

Taking it to extremes you'd be happy with Apple buying Liverpool's registration and renaming the club iPhone17 FC?

The franchise system that's so prevalent in American sports doesn't have a place in football.

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Ya, I agree with this. I’ve no issue with anyone succeeding whilst they play within the rules.

I get the animosity towards them in Germany as they are the antithesis of typical fan owned German clubs. They move players around their multi club structures like commodities and offload them when they are no good but this is still playing within the rules and making them compete.

I’d go as far as saying they have the ideal structure in place, driven by analytics and good scouting which help them succeed.

The others on the list are financial cheats and match fixers - no the same ball park

My post stated

'Every top flight league has varying degrees of bad actors who're mired in corruption & financial chicanery'

RB are very much a bad actor who've indulged in financial chicanery to get where they are

[Irishnev]

My post stated

'Every top flight league has varying degrees of bad actors who're mired in corruption & financial chicanery'

RB are very much a bad actor who've indulged in financial chicanery to get where they are

I get your points and they are hated in Germany for the reasons you mention, I also wouldn’t be happy if your Apple analogy came through but as I’ve zero connections to that local side I can say that they never breached FFP and are a sustainable club based on analytics and scouting - I like that

City, Chelsea and Real are absolute cheats who have bypassed and ignored financial rules and used their money to litigate their way out. Barca were the ideal club years ago - no sponsor, fan owned and a mix of academy plus superstars. They were always cunts for tapping up players and unsettling clubs but once Neymar was told they’ve become a basket case and I’m happy to see them burn. They are now accused indirectly of match fixing - same as Juve who also went from a well run club to basket case.

RBL are not in the same ballpark as them

Honorable to Real and Bayern who also have some skullduggery over the years as well as most Italian clubs as well

[SB]

They havent broken any rules. They havent spent billions. Theybarent funded by a governmenr or blood money.

They may have bought their way up the league, but they have done it in the "right" way from what I can tell.

Call it rotten, but the reality is you need money (well spent) to compete, and they are hardly Man City or PSG.

Ya, I agree with this. I’ve no issue with anyone succeeding whilst they play within the rules.

I get the animosity towards them in Germany as they are the antithesis of typical fan owned German clubs. They move players around their multi club structures like commodities and offload them when they are no good but this is still playing within the rules and making them compete.

I’d go as far as saying they have the ideal structure in place, driven by analytics and good scouting which help them succeed.

The others on the list are financial cheats and match fixers - no the same ball park

Inclined to agree with you both.

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i don't want to hear a peep out of any of you 3 when we're bought buy Apple and renamed IPhone17 FC

[RedReet]

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