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    Originally posted by dww View Post
    I think that it was fairly obvious that he improved markedly towards the end of last season and a number of sources suggest a correlation with a change in training. I'm not really sure we are in a position to judge that for certain but it seems to me quite possible that those who can might feel that there is more to come from him than we have seen.

    For me a lot depends on what the next manager wants in terms of style, but the way his movement improved at the end of the season I believe he will be here next season and do much better.
    I do think he'd do better, but I do think we need much better.
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      IMO give Carroll until January. His work rate and general play did improve & that's taking into account how ****e we were! He has a hell of alot to prove & seriously needs to improve his production.

      Fact of the matter though, we need a goalscorer. Will Andy Carroll ever be that? he'll get his chance under the new manager IMO, and up to him to seize it.

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        Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
        I do think he'd do better, but I do think we need much better.
        I definitely think we need another forward as well. For me we need at least three we can rely on to bring something different to the table. I like Suarez and Carroll as being so different, Dirk seems more of a backup option to me now or an option as a wide attacker in a more 4-3-3 style.

        We need better options overall and arguably a more natural goal. But if we don't have to sell to buy I see no real value in getting rid of Carroll at the likley nadir of his value.
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          Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
          I do think he'd do better, but I do think we need much better.
          Carroll really had very good end of the season and I have to say looks much better then I thought he would but we still have to pick up a new striker with a much better chance/goal ratio.

          If we don't and we only keep status quo I don't think we have a chance to get into CL next year.
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            We have a great player in Carroll. I disregard his fee for now as it's paid and there's nothing we can do about it.

            We definitely need another striker who is quicker off the mark, a 'play off the shoulder of the last defender' type. Benzema would be a great striker in that mould?
            Was muß, das muß.

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              Mario Gomez would be another.

              Speculations are that Edin Dzeko is about to sign for Bayern. If that is the case Mario may be unsettled.

              The problem is that even though we could possible afford his fee we couldn't afford his wages unless he'd take a significant cut but you never know I suppose.
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                from offal:

                Roy Hodgson has hinted at his intention to give Andy Carroll a starring role in Euro 2012 by handing the Liverpool man England's No.9 jersey.

                The squad numbers for this summer's tournament in Poland and Ukraine were announced by the FA today.

                Skipper Steven Gerrard will wear his traditional international No.4, while Stewart Downing (No.19) and Glen Johnson (No.2) have taken their club numbers.

                England face Belgium on Saturday in their final warm-up match before opening their Euro 2012 campaign on June 11 with a clash against France.

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                  Can he play tikka takka, or whatever it's called ?
                  Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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                    Originally posted by cream View Post
                    Can he play tikka takka, or whatever it's called ?
                    I don't think he can

                    Could he be a useful plan b though

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                      Originally posted by CJ View Post
                      I don't think he can

                      Could he be a useful plan b though
                      Which Barca could have done with
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                        Originally posted by fidget View Post
                        Which Barca could have done with
                        When watching them pass around chelseas box a plan b looked useful

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                          There was some good work being done with Carroll towards the back end of the season. He had movement, first touch and looked motivated. He also made a cunt out of me. Maybe he really wanted to go to the euros, but he looked a different player towards the end of the season.

                          It wouldn't make much sense to sell him. He's a squad option. I still think we need another striker though.

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                            Yeah but who hasn't made you look a cunt

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                              Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                              There was some good work being done with Carroll towards the back end of the season. He had movement, first touch and looked motivated. He also made a cunt out of me. Maybe he really wanted to go to the euros, but he looked a different player towards the end of the season.

                              It wouldn't make much sense to sell him. He's a squad option. I still think we need another striker though.
                              Originally posted by CJ View Post
                              Yeah but who hasn't made you look a cunt


                              ****houses.

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                                Originally posted by Bryncoch View Post
                                A bit harsh to use the c word but if Andy had a storming tournament and someone offered us over £20m for him then we should take it.
                                So we wait until he proves himself as a top player then get rid of him? Ok.

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