Andy Carroll

[Fredo]

Imagine the interplay of a front four consisting of Dilva, ****house, Tambourine and Banjo.

****house would be all over the place though.

[dom9]

Imagine the interplay of a front four consisting of Dilva, ****house, Tambourine and Banjo.

With Vole as back up.

[kingfunk]

Straight swap with toon for Cisse or Ba would do the job nicely at this stage.

If it improves our squad then forget the loss.

[kingfunk]

Dupe

[Red_Polo]

Yet you have someone on the other page slaughtering him for missing a chance from 5 yards out and saying we should sell on that basis

Do we also apply that to the rest of our players who have and will frequently miss from 5 yards out?

I haven't read the specific post but I'd be very surprised if it were specifically one miss they wanted him sold for.

I'd also wager when people make criticism of a player based on one attribute they are hoping you can read it whilst bearing in mind the context of that players other underlying characteristics rather than assuming they see that one attribute as singularly meaningful.

But then I haven't got an axe to grind about Suarez missing chances and Carroll supposedly getting a hard time the way you do!

[Red_Polo]

Ok so I looked back and it was obviously Nick's spiel. Everyone knows he can't express his opinion without being a bit of a dick. The only thing you can garner from those posts are that he doesn't rate Carroll and can't exert sufficient neurological control in front of a keyboard. New **** has not come to light. Picking on a single point as though it were something half cogent is on to a loser. Just laugh and talk to the less challenged, no?

[dom9]

Ok so I looked back and it was obviously Nick's spiel. Everyone knows he can't express his opinion without being a bit of a dick. The only thing you can garner from those posts are that he doesn't rate Carroll and can't exert sufficient neurological control in front of a keyboard. New **** has not come to light. Picking on a single point as though it were something half cogent is on to a loser. Just laugh and talk to the less challenged, no?

[Lecter]

Ok so I looked back and it was obviously Nick's spiel. Everyone knows he can't express his opinion without being a bit of a dick. The only thing you can garner from those posts are that he doesn't rate Carroll and can't exert sufficient neurological control in front of a keyboard. New **** has not come to light. Picking on a single point as though it were something half cogent is on to a loser. Just laugh and talk to the less challenged, no?

[Gaz]

I am joking by the way

Apology accepted unless your not on about me, in which case you can **** off

[DannyMan2006]

Personally I think Carroll is a better player than the one that arrived. And his effort and determination have improved a great deal.

Had we been playing the same way as last season id want us to keep him. He was fantastic when he came on against Chelsea and had a decent Euros.

But he does not suit the way we want to play as a plan A. As such, sell.

[danperkins]

I understand people not thinking he would fit in and I also understand people not thinking he's good enough for us - after all variety is the spice of life; I just don't think it's fair to summarise his contribution to the game by only referring to the '**** goal' or 'the miss from five yards' whilst completely ignoring his performance as a whole.

It wouldn't hurt the forums for some people to say, 'y'know what, I don't rate Carroll, but he ran himself in to the ground and got a goal as rewards' instead of trying to find some wonky twig to beat him with.

I'm not a big fan of Carroll but i thought he done well, some nice hold up play, fair enough a missed header (it happens) and although the keeper was poor for the goal, it was a lovely turn & still a goal regardless. Credit where credit is due

[Nick77]

The guy was poor for the first year that he was with us, but he's improved massively since February and was one of our better players towards the end of last season. Even Carroll's greatest critics must be able to see that.

Let's get behind him and hope he carries on improving for as long as he's here.

Agreed but still not good enough for LFC in my opinion - I apologize to everyone for having an opinion ffs!!

[baitman]

you cannot knock carroll [any more] for not trying. he just doesnt have the control of a quality footballer, though. if you look at the clips of tello or sahin, etc, then these lads can play. great close control, can give and take a pass at pace, can run past people, blah blah... all the things we would love to see from andy, but i dont think he has it in him... no matter how much he tries, he will never be as smooth as these other lads.
dont say ahh, but they are not centre forwards... a group that can all provide goals will be better than trying to rely on a misfiring andy carroll, they will provide more options and be more mobile, and every one of them will add goals from any position.

remember how everyone loved his show of commitment when he chased down that ball that was going out. he is a lad that everyone is hoping will do well for us, but i really feel that he will be gone, and it will be for the overall benefit of the team. the cards are held by the barcodes, though. they might want him, but they know andy will only agree to go if its to them, and they will only pay up to about 15m. we either accept that or we get an expensive bench warmer.

[cream]

£15m should be enough, no point in having him sat on the bench picking up £4m every year.

[Bender]

£15m should be enough, no point in having him sat on the bench picking up £4m every year.

what ever we get it's gonna represent one hell of a loss