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    When Roy Hodgson was sacked by Liverpool he peddled a defence which was widely swallowed and served to insulate his reputation as a top coach.

    It was the fans wot did it. According to Roy, every Kopite had wanted Kenny Dalglish, not him, to replace Rafa Benitez, so he was doomed from the off.

    But it wasn’t true. The majority of supporters may have been underwhelmed by Hodgson’s appointment in 2010, but willed him to succeed.

    That majority only started calling for Dalglish five months into Hodgson’s reign when they were in despair over his woeful signings, negative tactics, inability to motivate top players and make decisive tactical changes and a defeatist attitude which showed undue respect to their fiercest opponents.

    Oh, and that face-rubbing touchline impression he did, whenever the pressure built, of a hamster who’d fallen off his wheel.

    They concluded Hodgson was a man to set-up teams to climb from the bottom half of the table into the top, but lacked the sophistication to take a big club that had under-achieved for years back into the elite.

    Kopites didn’t drive him out they sussed him out.

    And I’m sensing the same is happening with England fans who, on Tuesday, saw the same Hodgson who inhabited the Anfield dug-out. A troubled man, rubbing his face, paralysed with indecision, unable to respond to the tactical changes made by his opponent and looking out of his depth.

    Then, adding insult to injury, the inevitable defeatist post-game spin which merely confirmed the worst fears: “I thought we hung on quite well” he said, after a draw with mighty Montenegro, before lowering expectations below the floorboards by hinting that England may now be looking at getting to next year’s World Cup via the play-offs.

    Happy 150th anniversary FA. You laud yourself as being in charge of the biggest footballing country on earth. But one struggling to top a group ahead of a nation with a population of 630,000 and an average FIFA ranking of 84.

    There may well be, as the cliche goes, few easy games left at international level, but had Sven Goran Eriksson or Fabio Capello been in charge, England’s place in Brazil would now be assured. They breezed through every qualifying group they faced and would have done in this.

    I don’t want the FA to sack Hodgson. I’d just like to get this question in now before it’s widely asked when the obituaries are written on his England career: Why did they appoint him?

    Surely failing so miserably, so recently, in his one shot at managing a big English club should have made them question whether he has what it takes to do it at the highest level. At the time, the low-key, behind-closed-doors way he was given the job had the same feel as his Liverpool recruitment.

    He was hired by worried men not because of who he was, but who he wasn’t: Rafa Benitez at Anfield, Harry Redknapp at England, both boat-rocking characters, perceived to have baggage, who like to do it their way.

    It was a safe, old-school, he’s a respected Englishman who’s earned his shot at the national job appointment. It was Graham Taylor Mark II.

    And I fear his end may prove as undignified as the Turnip’s when his head is turned into a piece of fruit or veg after a crushing defeat against a decent side.

    Which could be as soon as the November play-offs against, say, Belgium in Brussels (“Sprout of this World”) or next summer after an early plane home from Brazil (CopacaBanana?)

    Lettuce pray I’m wrong.

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      Yeah well what goes around comes around. I hope he fails big time with Ingerland then the rest of the country will know what we knew when he first stepped foot in Melwood.

      The guy is a loser.

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        Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
        Yeah well what goes around comes around. I hope he fails big time with Ingerland then the rest of the country will know what we knew when he first stepped foot in Melwood.

        The guy is a loser
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        I will enjoy listening to all the England fans who critisised us for our treatment of him complaining about the job he's doing in charge of the England team
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          I will enjoy listening to all the England fans who critisised us for our treatment of him complaining about the job he's doing in charge of the England team


          The England fans are just starting to suss him out too.

          That article is spot on.

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            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            Remember when he used to manage us
            I want him back.
            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
              I want him back.
              I remember us having heated debates at the time.
              Are we winning?

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                England down to 7th in the latest World rankings

                Brazil 19th

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                  Panama 38th.

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                    Croatia

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                      Bronto's legendary mid-table magic is starting to work. :rocjL
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                      May the Lord bless this post.

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                        What a farce that is.

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                          Worse than Colombia
                          The times they are a changin'.

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                            Wales are higher than Scotland?
                            Go **** yourself

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                              Well they do keep beating them.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                              May the Lord bless this post.

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                                12 April 2013 @ 0649

                                Roy Hodgson unhappy at clubs' international breaks policy

                                Roy Hodgson claims his England team is being undermined by club managers who effectively view international breaks as a chance to rest their star players.

                                "I would like to see the international break being taken seriously," he said.

                                Hodgson questioned the validity of club managers complaining about "burnout" among their players.

                                "How many players are playing 55 games?" he asked. "When you add up all the minutes for some players, it's not even 19 games."

                                Speaking at the Soccerex conference in Manchester, the England boss said international breaks are seen by clubs as a chance to give players a holiday.

                                "I'd still like to see it as a time when players go to play for their international teams. These breaks are being seen as the 10-day break that players don't always get during the season."

                                Hodgson has had to put up with his fair share of problems with player availability during his first year in charge.

                                Last month, following advice from Manchester United, Rio Ferdinand pulled out of the England squad for World Cup qualifying matches against San Marino and Montenegro.

                                Arsenal's Jack Wilshere spent that period in Dubai on the advice of Arsenal, trying to overcome injury.

                                "It concerns me that we [English football] are guilty of accepting 'it's the international break so we can give the player 10 days off or go to Dubai'. If you're a club manager now, you've got no excuse.

                                "You can easily plan your time around these blocks. If your players need a rest, it's not obligatory that it has to be during the international break. It can be during the other 40-odd weeks of the year."

                                While exempting goalkeeper Joe Hart and midfielder Steven Gerrard "who play more than the rest", Hodgson said claims of burnout should be treated with a degree of scepticism.

                                "We have to be careful when talking about overplaying.

                                "We take something as read because it is thrown at us. The season might be 55 games long, but you show me how many players are playing 55 games?"

                                With England fielding Under-20 and Under-21 teams this summer, Hodgson also spoke of his growing concern that youngsters are being over-protected by their clubs.

                                "I grew up in a generation when playing for your national team was vitally important," he said. "I can't understand why so many players should be denied the chance to play."

                                England coach Gary Neville, meanwhile, claimed young English players' chances were being harmed by the number of foreign stars in the Premier League.

                                "There's a tipping point that we've gone beyond in England," Neville said.

                                "I think it is 35% [the proportion of English players in the Premier League] and that is too low. In Spain, it's about 63%, which sounds about right. We're maybe 20% off.

                                "We need to give more chances to our own. We're harming ourselves a little bit. I've watched Chelsea beat Manchester United [in the FA Youth Cup], I've watched Manchester City beat Manchester United in the Youth Cup.

                                "I've seen these players - Josh McEachran [on loan from Chelsea to Middlesbrough] and others. Where are they? I can't work it out.

                                "The question is: 'Is the talent being produced or is the talent being lost?' I think there are definitely pathways being blocked."

                                LINK: The Beeb

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                                12 April 2013 @ 1136

                                Sir Alex Ferguson criticises international friendlies

                                Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has questioned the scheduling of international friendlies after England coach Roy Hodgson claimed club managers were undermining his team.

                                "Friendly games, for the last decade, have been played the Wednesday before the season starts," said Ferguson. "You tell me the sense of that.

                                "I've got no issues with competitive matches.

                                "But you can't tell me that should apply itself for friendly games."

                                Since Hodgson took charge of England on 1 May 2012, the national team have played five friendlies, including a victory in Italy three days before the opening weekend of the Premier League season.

                                They have also contested three matches at the 2012 European Championship and six 2014 World Cup qualification games.

                                United defender Rio Ferdinand pulled out of Hodgson's squad for World Cup qualifiers against San Marino and Montenegro. In the meantime, he flew to Qatar to work as a TV pundit on the San Marino game.

                                Arsenal and England midfielder Jack Wilshere spent that period in Dubai on the advice of his club as he recovered from an ankle injury.

                                Speaking at the Soccerex football business conference, Hodgson said international breaks are seen by clubs as a chance to give players a holiday.

                                "I would like to see the international break being taken seriously," he said. "I'd still like to see it as a time when players go to play for their international teams. These breaks are being seen as the 10-day break that players don't always get during the season."

                                Ferguson countered on Friday: "Look at the opposite side. International football interferes with the clubs' ambitions.

                                "It doesn't matter what way you look at it. Club managers are always in disagreement with international football, particularly in friendly situations."

                                LINK: The Beeb

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