Clint Dempsey

[Fierce]

EDIT:Premier League 2011-12:

Downing:0 Goals 0 Assist
Henderson: 2 Goals 1 Assist
Andy Carroll: 4 Goals 2 Assists
Kuyt: 2 Goals 1 Assist

Total: 8 Goals 4 Assists (That is nothing short of embarrassing)

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Dempsey: 17 Goals 6 Assists

For 6 million quidish i would snap that up, and he is hardly a one season wonder season beforehand he got 12 Goals 3 Assists, sure we bought Carroll off the back of a good 6 months, Downing off the back of a decent season a Villa & were willing to get Sigursson off the back of 6 months.

Yes he plays for Fulham & yes he is 29 but IMO for the right price and most likely a much cheaper wage than all of the above, Dempsey would be a super squad player. I just think his fiery personality and steel is exactly the type of player we need to shake things up. Definitely an improved player at club level last few season & has scored 29 goals at international level too. Not many peoples favorite and definitely not a wow signing, but i think it would be a shrewd addition.

Total: 8 Goals 4 Assists (That is nothing short of embarrassing)

Good grief, that is horrific

[The Birdman]

Dempsey is a decent player.
What he does so well that fits in with how Swansea played is he starts wide but comes in off the line to play 'in between the lines' as Rafa first stated before every 2 bit commentator started to use it.
He is very difficult to pick up with his movement in open play, a threat in the air and scores from free kicks.

Also while he's 29 I'm sure I read yesterday that he didn't turn pro until 21 so he has only had 8 years professional football in his legs.
Plus again he will be a massive hit commercially in the USA, everything adds up.

[Fivex]

Could be worse. We could have appointed Ian Holloway as manager!

Yep, that shout alone renders pretty much everything that JohnDoe types as invalid.

[danperkins]

TBF those are the kind of stats that were used to justify the signings of Downing, Adam and Henderson, going purely on stats Yakubu is the answer to our goal scoring problems. I've seen Dempsey play numerous times on Sky and I have never once thought he was anything more than an average journeyman who had found his level at Fulham.
Looks like we'll pissing more money up the wall this summer if we sign Dempsey. Great.

EDIT:Well i have seen Dempsey played many times for club and country and i have always thought he was an absolute handful for CB's. He is rough and ready and causes problems and it's his general play that impresses me not the goal scoring of last season. He is technically very good too and plays in between the lines and links up very well i'd say a big reason why Rogers is looking at him. But no doubts he won't score the way he did last season but "if" he came to us i'd be willing to lay a few quid that he would prove a good addition to the squad.

Adam to be fair did his job in production 2 Goals 6 Assists and from such a deep position (injured for while too), he is a slow lazy *******, who can't tackle and has no positional sense that was asked to play in a position that goes against every single one of his attributes & highlights every single one of his deficiencies. Blatantly obvious a DM role wasn't a good shout for him. I still think Adam could be a good squad player for us if used more sparingly and away for the defensive sides of things.

Downing should be sold was always bang average & henderson will get time because he is young but he has a lot to prove. IMO the very least any player can do even if their having a bad game, is work hard and get stuck, Downing is a lazy wimp and Henderson ain't lazy but he is a wimp. He needs to find some steel & aggression somewhere, but IMO it's either in you or it is not. Hope he proves me wrong but short of a miraculous change in his mentality i can't see him controlling any midfield.

Anyways for 6 million or there abouts IMO Dempsey would be a good signing.

[yamiedo]

Dempsey is a decent player.
What he does so well that fits in with how Swansea played is he starts wide but comes in off the line to play 'in between the lines' as Rafa first stated before every 2 bit commentator started to use it.
He is very difficult to pick up with his movement in open play, a threat in the air and scores from free kicks.

Also while he's 29 I'm sure I read yesterday that he didn't turn pro until 21 so he has only had 8 years professional football in his legs.
Plus again he will be a massive hit commercially in the USA, everything adds up.

I agree

[danperkins]

Dempsey is a decent player.
What he does so well that fits in with how Swansea played is he starts wide but comes in off the line to play 'in between the lines' as Rafa first stated before every 2 bit commentator started to use it.
He is very difficult to pick up with his movement in open play, a threat in the air and scores from free kicks.

Also while he's 29 I'm sure I read yesterday that he didn't turn pro until 21 so he has only had 8 years professional football in his legs.
Plus again he will be a massive hit commercially in the USA, everything adds up.

[Gray]

How many players have had one wonder season and turned back to **** afterwards? There are tons of them. Clint Dempsey is certainly going to end up as one of them. Fulham fans used to say he was **** a few years ago, and now he's managed to peak into a productive player for a **** team, how does that suddenly make him good enough for us?

He's 29. He has no upside, he's never been a prolific scorer bar last season and his best attribute is his work rate.

Terrible, terrible signing and he's going to be chewed up to bits and spat out by everyone within a few months. You can see it coming from a mile away.

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[JohnDoe]

EDIT:Premier League 2011-12:

Downing:0 Goals 0 Assist
Henderson: 2 Goals 1 Assist
Andy Carroll: 4 Goals 2 Assists
Kuyt: 2 Goals 1 Assist

Total: 8 Goals 4 Assists (That is nothing short of embarrassing)

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Dempsey: 17 Goals 6 Assists

For 6 million quidish i would snap that up, and he is hardly a one season wonder season beforehand he got 12 Goals 3 Assists, sure we bought Carroll off the back of a good 6 months, Downing off the back of a decent season a Villa & were willing to get Sigursson off the back of 6 months.

Yes he plays for Fulham & yes he is 29 but IMO for the right price and most likely a much cheaper wage than all of the above, Dempsey would be a super squad player. I just think his fiery personality and steel is exactly the type of player we need to shake things up. Definitely an improved player at club level last few season & has scored 29 goals at international level too. Not many peoples favorite and definitely not a wow signing, but i think it would be a shrewd addition.

Can you check Downing's stats in his last season for Villa before coming here? Thanks.

[JohnDoe]

Difference is we won't be paying 20m for Dempsey. I think if we had paid £6m for Downing there wouldnt be such a hoo-ha surrounding him.

20m makes him a marquee signing , while 6m is to strengthen the squad, give a different option etc...

"Squad player", we've heard it all before. Here's the issue. Spending money on squad players is the worst way to spend money. These players end up as money sinking turds that you can't flush down the toilet. It's better not to sign anyone at all than an average player who doesn't improve the team.

Does this squad lack depth or does it lack quality?

[Kenneth]

Both. Players have left, surely we need to replace them.

[Gray]

It's time for the youngsters to provide the squad cover, and given the chance I think some of them can. We need improvement in the starting 11.

[JohnDoe]

Both.

Even if this squad lack depth, you buy top class players and relegate the ones who used to be in the first team into "squad players".

The philosophy should be buying top class players or top class prospects. Once you start wasting money on players with no upside or superior quality, you fall into the trap of mediocrity.

[Kenneth]

Ok, Dirk leaves, Dempsey comes in. That's a first team improvement right there.

[yamiedo]

Ok, Dirk leaves, Dempsey comes in. That's a first team improvement right there.

[JohnDoe]

Ok, Dirk leaves, Dempsey comes in. That's a first team improvement right there.

Not really, it isn't.

Dempsey will not be a better Liverpool player for us than Dirk. He may have had a much better season, but he had that season in a different team. He's a mediocre player who had a great season. He's still a mediocre player and will be exposed as one here.

Edit: And either way, NEITHER of them are good enough moving forward.