Clint Dempsey

[Lee]

For the last time, Nige, analogy is NOT the study of being an arsehole.

Otherwise you'd be Professor LG.

I'm with Nige and Muddled on this one though. Do not want Dempsey.

[Muddled]

Not many midfielders score over 20 goals at all...why are you downplaying the fantastic achievement?

I'm not downplaying it, he had a fantastic season, but it wasn't as a midfielder.

I'm just saying that referring to him as a '20 goal a season guy' when he's done that once in six (?) is misleading.

[REDSCOUSER]

Club gorra stop overpaying for players. Dempsey is worth 5-7m max no more.
Will LFC ever learn from Keane to Aquilani to Downing to Adam to Henderson. FFS.

[marksared]

Club gorra stop overpaying for players. Dempsey is worth 5-7m max no more.
Will LFC ever learn from Keane to Aquilani to Downing to Adam to Henderson. FFS.

Reina, Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Arbeloa and more contradict that argument and to be fair every club makes good and bad signings, it is frustrating though.

[Fredo]

Reina, Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Arbeloa and more contradict that argument and to be fair every club makes good and bad signings, it is frustrating though.

They were full value though (Alonso, Torres, Masherano and Arbeloa were sold at a profit), unlike paying £10m for Dempsey who is nearly 30 and have less resale value. It's a bit of a weird inquiry taking all of this into consideration.

[marksared]

They were full value though (Alonso, Torres, Masherano and Arbeloa were sold at a profit), unlike paying £10m for Dempsey who is nearly 30 and have less resale value. It's a bit of a weird enquiry taking all of this into consideration.

I agree, as a long term investment is doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.

But in the short term if we consider Dempseys commercial value(which will be taken into consideration) in the U.S. and the instant impact he should have, what price do you put on a player that should guarantee 10 goals next season.

Its hard to say because we don't know the commercial revenue impact which will lead to an inflated fee.

[badpiggy]

I agree, as a long term investment is doesn't make a hell of the a lot of sense.

But in the short term if we consider Dempseys commercial value(which will be taken into consideration) in the U.S. and the instant impact he should have, what price do you put on a player that should guarantee 10 goals next season.

Its hard to say because we don't know the commercial revenue impact which will lead to an inflated fee.

That's probably the key point about his goals and therefore his value. 23 last season is highly unlikely to be repeated but 10 is on the pessimistic side of reasonable which I think is fair... 10m for 10+ goals sounds good especially if you add in his excellent tackling stats ( second only to Suarez in tackles made in opponents third, I heard on Off The Ball during the week). £20m for a twenty goal player would be good value and for a anything near or above 25-30 goals a season, the sky is the limit.

[marksared]

That's probably the key point about his goals and therefore his value. 23 last season is highly unlikely to be repeated but 10 is on the pessimistic side of reasonable which I think is fairly.. 10m for 10+ goals sounds good especially if you add in his excellent tackling stats ( second only to Suarez in tackles made in opponents third, I heard on Off The Ball during the week). £20m for a twenty goal player would be good value and for a anything near or above 25-30 goals a season, the sky is the limit.

That's exactly what Rodgers requires. Dempsey, Suarez and Borini all over the defence.

[Muddled]

I agree, as a long term investment is doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.

But in the short term if we consider Dempseys commercial value(which will be taken into consideration) in the U.S. and the instant impact he should have, what price do you put on a player that should guarantee 10 goals next season.

Its hard to say because we don't know the commercial revenue impact which will lead to an inflated fee.

The commercial aspect of the deal is fair comment. But why stop there? Let's look to get an Asian footballer in and see if we increase revenues that way too.

We shouldn't be basing a deal on shirt sales and neither should we try and justify it because he had one fantastic season (once bitten, twice shy). He scored more than 20 goals in one season and achieved double figures thrice. In his *whole* career. A career that's naturally on the decline.

Of course, I hope you're right and I am wrong though and I'll be amongst the first to admit it if I am. *If* we sign him, obv!

[Paul12]

Just read that Ferguson has only once in recent times paid a fee for a player over the age of (I think) 26. That's not a bad statistic (even if he is an idiot in so many other ways).

[Gazzla]

Reina, Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Arbeloa and more contradict that argument and to be fair every club makes good and bad signings, it is frustrating though.

It's not a contridiction at all, Reina cost £6M, Torres, £18.5M, Mascherano £18M and Arbeloa £2.5M so how did we over pay for any of them?

[RichC]

I think he's saying those are good signings compared to the likes of Downing et al who were ****e.

[Leyton388]

I don't know where this Rafa argument has come into it? All i did was name the quality players rafa bought that made our team great at the time and one of the best around yet some people have chosen to take that and turn it into some rafa bashing? For the faults rafa had he was without doubt one of our best managers and he did buy some crap but he bought quality as well which proved to make the difference.

Our club has been torn apart since 2007 and it was amazing rafa kept us so good for that long under the two cunts. As for spening £10m on a 29 year old Dempsey IMO just shows what is wrong with our transfer policy at this moment in time but im sure rodgers will change this in the long run. I just hope and prey that a culture of seling our best players and replacing them with rubbish replacements is behind us.

I have alot of faith in Rodgers to get it right but it will take him time.

[marksared]

It's not a contridiction at all, Reina cost £6M, Torres, £18.5M, Mascherano £18M and Arbeloa £2.5M so how did we over pay for any of them?

Forgot Alonso did we? Should have mentioned Agger and Skrtle too.

My point is how much did they cost and how much where they worth at there peak re: resale value.

We have made good and bad investments, do you understand now.

[danperkins]

So... Clint Dempsey then?