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    Rio Ferdinand has blasted Roy Hodgson's management at Euro 2012, claiming the England boss underused his younger players and was too defensive.

    The 33-year-old defender, who was overlooked by Hodgson for his his squad for the tournament in Poland and Ukraine, wanted to see Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Phil Jones given more game time.

    He also criticised Hodgson's choice of formation, and questioned whether Andrea Pirlo, the Italy playmaker who was instrumental in England's quater-final exit, whould even have been selected for the Three Lions squad.

    He told The Sun: "I am a fan of The Ox and I wanted to see more of him but in the end he finished up as a spectator."

    He went on: "Phil Jones is one of the most adaptable players we have in our country and where was he?

    "When we need to take the ball from midfield, run 40 yards with it and put the other team on the back foot, he is the man for the job.

    "Instead, we stayed cautious and Jordan Henderson was used instead.

    "That's not a criticism of Jordan, he is a different player to Phil, but I thought it showed we were being too conservative."

    Since England's exit, Hodgson has talked about getting more young players into the team for the upcoming World Cup qualifying campaign.

    Ferdinand said: "I'm reading a lot of stuff about how it's time to get the youngsters in and all of that but you only find out if they can do it when you throw them in there.

    "What did we learn about Alex and Phil at this tournament?

    "Do we know how much influence Alex can have on a game in a finals?

    "He did fairly well against France, so why not persist with him and let him grow into it?

    "As for Phil, we will now have to wait until the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, provided we qualify, to see how good he can be at the highest level. Expectations were low so the manager had a free shot to find out about our youngsters and I feel it was a missed opportunity."

    Ferdinand was impressed by the performance of Pirlo, but added: "If Pirlo was English would he have made the squad let alone been on the pitch?

    "I don't know as his qualities may have been overlooked... not by just the current manager but maybe those before him too."

    One England player who impressed Ferdinand was his Manchester United team-mate Danny Welbeck.

    "The only time we really kept the ball properly was when Danny Welbeck dropped short to collect it and linked the play," he said.

    "But, usually, he was having to stay up and wasn't allowed to drop too much because we had set out a certain way with a 4-4-2 which didn't offer a great deal of flexibility."

    He added: "It's okay saying we were very good defensively and hard to beat but if you set out to be defensive then that's your first priority.

    "I'd love to see us running at other teams. I want to see Alex and Theo and Adam Johnson, who I thought should have gone too, causing problems instead of worrying about covering back as the first thought."
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    Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

    Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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      "When we need to take the ball from midfield, run 40 yards with it and put the other team on the back foot, he is the man for the job.

      "Instead, we stayed cautious and Jordan Henderson was used instead.

      "That's not a criticism of Jordan, he is a different player to Phil, but I thought it showed we were being too conservative."
      Surely a defender-cum-midfielder is more defensive than a straight midfielder? Oh wait I forgot it's Phil Jonesenbauer.

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        And although his general point is correct, how about you point out how **** your team mates Young and Rooney were, eh Rio?

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          Personally, I would have preferred to see Jones and Henderson in midfield and Gerrard advanced of them. We were never going to win the blasted thing, so why not play an U21 side of sorts.
          *Except Michael, who died.

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            worst players of the tournament for England were Rooney and Youny, complete muck the pair of them.

            Of course Rooney being **** will be overlooked as he's world class don't you know.

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              Dont think Rooney will be overlooked. Everyone I have spoken too him blame him for letting his fitness go.
              *Except Michael, who died.

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                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                Dont think Rooney will be overlooked. Everyone I have spoken too him blame him for letting his fitness go.
                I meant the journo's. On the fitness front, it's the same every season for him, he starts the league usually in good shape but always looks like he's carrying too much weight the secont half of the season.

                Most people I know including Manc fans think he's over-rated as a player, good player but nowhere near as good as he's made out to be.

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                  Trouble is with Rooney, when he is playing well and scoring he looks fine. But as soon as he starts blowing, he looks fat as ****. I dont know if its his form that masks his weight. But he is large.
                  *Except Michael, who died.

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                    When he stops playing football he will be one fat ****er!

                    Rooney rarely does it for a long period of time though, mate who'a a big Manc fan gets so fed up with him as clearly the fitness factor is the biggest problem with him and it happens season after season.

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                      BARESI!

                      LMAO!!!!!!!

                      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                        You might want to pop into the WAYLTATM thread mate....

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                          Midway through England’s football lesson from Italy, Charlie Adam, Liverpool and Scotland midfielder, tweeted: ‘Get it in the mixer for the big man — game over.’

                          Leaving aside how spookily in tune this makes him with the methods of new Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers, it is a fascinating insight into the sort of enlightened football we can expect at the next European Championship tournament once it is expanded to 24 teams: Scotland being one of the nations UEFA president Michel Platini hopes will benefit from his innovative largesse.
                          At least you're trying to score when playing the long ball, not just sitting back and hoping for penalties

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                            This 24 team tournament is going to be a joke. Its either going to be 4 group of 6, or 6 groups of 4, with the top two qualifying and then the 4 best 3rd place teams going through too.

                            Absolute cluster**** of an idea.
                            *Except Michael, who died.

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                              Originally posted by kev776 View Post
                              I would sack Woy and all of his backroom "jolly boys outing" staff and install Beckham as General Manager, Gary ****face as his number 2.

                              Say Goodbye to:

                              Milner, Terry, Cole, Gerrard, Parker, Ferdinand, Barry, Downing.

                              Bring in the best of the under 19 and 21 teams and just play them as they play for their clubs, none of this rigid back 8 nonsense.

                              The only time England came near Italy was the first 20 mins when we played like an English team, the rest was ****.
                              last night collymore was on talksport going nuts, along these same lines - he is usually a bit of a prick but he was right...

                              he was basically saying that as a nation we award 'ok' players who make up for their lack of technical ability with graft and being a 'model' pro.

                              We would need to change our way of thinking and start giving time to the players with genuine technical ability and allow them to show their and flourish

                              his main example of this was picking Milner instead of Adam Johnson
                              i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                                i ****ing hate that samuel cunt
                                i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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