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Paul.S
The more publicity this gets the better. I feel sorry for the Man United fans to be honest. Obviously, in many ways, their club is in a better position than ours but imagine how suicidal/angry this place would be if we were hundreds of millions in debt and the owners were planning to dilute the shareholding to trouser squillions for themselves, leaving the debt virtually untouched, and buying the support of important employees in order to push it through. It would be carnage.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
The Glazers are the naffest magicians in history. Abracadabra! Watch hundreds of millions of pounds turn to dust. Hey presto! Watch Cristiano Ronaldo disappear and return a year later as Bebe. Shazam! Watch the Glazers trouser half the money from the IPO that was supposed to ease the club's elephantine debt. Yes, Manchester United last night announced their listing on the New York stock exchange, but with a twist: it seems half the money will be going straight to the Glazers' cavernous pockets.
In 1999, plain old Alex Ferguson said: "When an Italian tells me it's pasta on the plate, I check under the sauce to make sure." In unrelated news, Sir Alex Ferguson recently said the Glazers were "great" for Manchester United and that "the majority of real fans will look at it realistically and say it's not affecting the team". Yet the Glazers' latest magic trick raises one particular point that even the Fiver – a U at Business Studies, and that was second time round – can see is of vague importance.
Sixteen million shares worth $288m will form an equity plan, the purpose of which is "to attract, retain and motivate selected employees … through the granting of share-based and cash-based compensation awards". Attract, retain, motivate, and don't nobody say nothin'. If Ferguson is part of that scheme – and if he's not something is amiss, as he is by some distance the most select employee at the club – the credibility of his comments about the Glazers would be obliterated faster than you could say 'the Govan department of champagne socialism'.
At the very least, Ferguson is guilty of wilful ignorance and/or a certain moral ambivalence when it comes to the Glazers' impact on the club. And if it is the case that he will make a significant financial gain from this latest manoeuvre, it will be hard for anyone to credibly dispute the suggestion that he has been complicit in the systematic violation of Manchester United Football Club. Were that the case, even his beloved "real fans" should struggle to forgive him.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
With us laughing at them, watch them get bought over by the qataris. That's how our luck and their luck works. I hope they suffer and drop down the league and are no longer a big club or attraction for a rich Arab.
With us laughing at them, watch them get bought over by the qataris. That's how our luck and their luck works. I hope they suffer and drop down the league and are no longer a big club or attraction for a rich Arab.
What, like us?
"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
With us laughing at them, watch them get bought over by the qataris. That's how our luck and their luck works. I hope they suffer and drop down the league and are no longer a big club or attraction for a rich Arab.
Yeah, it will probably happen. But laugh for the now, leave the future for another day.
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