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**Neil Young** · 03-01-13, 03:48 PM

Boo.

Data without analysis is just noise.

**Gibbo** · 03-01-13, 03:48 PM

Footballers earn too much
Strongly agree: 2
Agree: 19
Neither agree or disagree: 22
Disagree: 38
Strongly disagree: 19

**Shaggy** · 03-01-13, 03:49 PM

Very interesting, especially on recreational drugs.

**Neil Young** · 03-01-13, 03:54 PM

Really? In what way?

**Reece** · 03-01-13, 03:54 PM

The cost of watching football is too high
Strongly agree: 38
Agree: 39
Neither agree or disagree: 17
Disagree: 5
Strongly disagree: 1

Footballers earn too much
Strongly agree: 2
Agree: 19
Neither agree or disagree: 22
Disagree: 38
Strongly disagree: 19

**Neil Young** · 03-01-13, 03:56 PM

One thing it tells us is that footballers aren't very good at connecting their own interests with those of others. In other words, they're much like everybody else.

**Shaggy** · 03-01-13, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Neil Young View Post

Really? In what way?

I just think it's interesting.

They clearly have an insight and it seems a fair few take drugs - and therefore are getting away with it. Makes you wonder about Rio Ferdinand.

**Neil Young** · 03-01-13, 04:04 PM

Yeah, but we knew all that really. It's not hard evidence. And it's only 5% who 'agree strongly' which to me indicates anything more than hearsay.

Although it could be just that 'agree strongly' is actually taken to mean 'know it's widespread' while 'agree' just means 'know some do it'. It's not clear which the respondents used to answer the question and the method doesn't bother to clarify whether they even explained what was meant by the five point scale in the first place (making the mistaken assumption that being able to speak English means the options are unambiguous and answers universal).

So really it just adds to all the rumours we already know. And logic alone suggests it happens anyway, so I don't think we've learned anything except that FourFourTwo have adopted a flawed approach to data collection which is further let down by the lack of analysis.

I'm available to make up the shortfall on a consultancy basis, at my normal daily rate.

**Tee** · 03-01-13, 04:06 PM

The match fixing one is interesting.

**Chazza** · 03-01-13, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Neil Young View Post

Yeah, but we knew all that really. It's not hard evidence. And it's only 5% who 'agree strongly' which to me indicates anything more than hearsay.

Although it could be just that 'agree strongly' is actually taken to mean 'know it's widespread' while 'agree' just means 'know some do it'. It's not clear which they mean and the methodology doesn't bother to clarify their answers.

So really it just adds to all the rumours we already know. And logic alone suggests it happens anyway, so I don't think we've learned anything except that FourFourTwo have adopted a flawed approach to data collection which is further let down by the lack of analysis.

I'm available to make up the shortfall on a consultancy basis, at my normal daily rate.

I knew I shouldn't have posted this

**Lee** · 03-01-13, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Chazza View Post

I knew I shouldn't have posted this

Sack Chazza.

**Neil Young** · 03-01-13, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Chazza View Post

I knew I shouldn't have posted this

Nah, I'm all for it. It gives me a chance to lambast intelligent, perceptive people (mainly Shaggy

) for taking polls too much at face value.

**Neil Young** · 03-01-13, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Lee View Post

Sack Chazza.

Although yeah, goats out.

**Shaggy** · 03-01-13, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Neil Young View Post

Nah, I'm all for it. It gives me a chance to lambast intelligent, perceptive people (mainly Shaggy

) for taking polls too much at face value.

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