The Relegation Thread (2012/13)

[Alex]

Well, quite clearly Alex aint gonna win Mod-Factor.

We shall see.

Right, I have merged the 3 posts in the other thread into this one and will let that one drop down. Ill leave this one going as it encompasses all the leagues, plus I prefer the title.

MODDED!

[Chazza]

Shoddy

[Alex]

Moddy

[Muddled]

Top, top modding - 'triffic modding, if you will.

[Exiled_red]

I really hope West Ham get dragged into it. A few of the fans are turning on fat ead now they are losing a few.

I hope they stay up and buy Carroll from us.

[Shaggy]

Is it true Remy is out for the season?

[Captain Stu]

Is it true Remy is out for the season?

Dunno about that but he injured his groin so he's looking at least to be out for a good 2-3 weeks.

[Bender]

QPR fear that £8million striker Loic Remy could be out for two months with the injury he suffered in training last week which forced him to miss Saturday's 0-0 draw with Norwich.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2JwgUdcaq

[Captain Stu]

QPR fear that £8million striker Loic Remy could be out for two months with the injury he suffered in training last week which forced him to miss Saturday's 0-0 draw with Norwich.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2JwgUdcaq

[Lee]

An inspired signing.

Old 'arry will be twitching like a good'un after hearing that news.

[baitman]

mergemeister

[spud_gun]

An inspired signing.

Old 'arry will be twitching like a good'un after hearing that news.

[Frenchie]

we play QPR last game of the season...I think...

[lickedlollipop]

QPR fear that £8million striker Loic Remy could be out for two months with the injury he suffered in training last week which forced him to miss Saturday's 0-0 draw with Norwich.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2JwgUdcaq

karma is a bitch

[Chazza]

Shock Dubai trip revelations: Harry's QPR stars lift lid on astonishing five day booze bender

1 Mar 2013 23:00
“Some players were out, until 3am, 4am, 5am – and then went to training at 8am. It was like a stag party. Some looked at it as if we had a five-day holiday," said one player

QPR’s training break in Dubai last month became a “stag party” according to first-team players.

In claims that will embarrass the club’s hierarchy, members of Harry Redknapp’s starting line-up told Mirror Sport the week-long camp in the Middle East descended into a “joke”.

Manager Redknapp did not stay in the same hotel as the players and his coaching staff.

Early-morning training sessions lasted barely 90 minutes before the squad were left to their own devices, which saw all-night benders for some and huge bar bills run up, according to accounts given by three players to Mirror Sport.

Some players were said to be incapable of training as a result of their partying, resulting in reprimands from Redknapp.

In a series of astonishing and candid admissions, players broke ranks to reveal the Rangers camp is split into dressing-room cliques, with jealousy over the massive wage differences and anger at a perceived lack of application by some of the squad.

With just two wins from 27 Premier League games, Rangers require a near-miracle if they are to avoid relegation.

But what was supposed to be a team-building break instead became a glorified “holiday”.

One player admitted: “Dubai was a week when we had the chance to sort out the *problems. Everybody wanted to do that.

“But we ended up going there for a holiday. It would have been better if we’d stayed here in London.

“We had training very early in the morning. We’d start at 8am and be finished, every day, by 9.30 at the latest.

"It was very warm and after that we would just go out.

“Then in the evening some players were out, until 3am, 4am, 5am – and then went to training at 8am. It was like a stag party.

“Some looked at it as if we had a five-day holiday. It wasn’t one or two of us. That’s the problem.”

Redknapp and his wife Sandra stayed in a different hotel from the Royal Meridien in which the squad and coaching staff were housed throughout the week.

Another senior member of the team added: “I’ve never known anything like what happened in Dubai.

“We had all day to ourselves. That meant shopping, the pool, nightclubs. We were on holiday, it was just a party.

“Some of the bar bills were enormous, huge, in the tens of thousands of pounds for one night.

“Two or three players couldn’t train the next day. It was that bad.

“We have to take the blame for what we did. We know that.

“But some of us think that if the manager had been in the same hotel he could have controlled what was going on.

“What sort of club allows a team with 17 points and only two wins all season go and do this?

"It’s impossible to survive like that and so this club isn’t going to survive.”

Redknapp confirmed on Friday night he had stayed in a separate hotel and that the players had only trained for 90 minutes each day.

Quizzed over the specific allegations of drinking, he replied: “If it happened they must have done something I didn’t see.

"I don’t believe what you’re saying. I can’t see it.”

The claims appeared damning and set to cause outrage among QPR fans.

Three of Redknapp’s squad told MirrorFootball:

How the club’s training camp in Dubai last month was treated by some players as an excuse for a week-long bender.

The scale of the dressing-room schisms.

And the recriminations at the pitiful display against Manchester United last week.

These were not the normal ranks of the disaffected, players left on the outside, but key members of Redknapp’s squad.

The launching pad was the trip to Dubai, which came 48 hours after a humiliating 4-1 defeat at Swansea left Rangers rooted to the foot of the table.

Dubai is a regular mid-season retreat for Premier League clubs and Swansea, Sunderland and West Ham were in the Gulf state as Rangers booked into their £300-a-night five star beach base.

It was supposed to be the chance to regroup, work hard, find a way out of trouble. Instead, according to the players who spoke to Mirror Sport, some treated it as little more than a holiday camp.

One player recounted: “We were in one hotel. Harry and his wife were in a different hotel. They went out before us and came back a day before we did.

“It felt like a holiday camp, not a training camp, for everyone. We thought we were going there to train.

"Players were out, every night. I can’t pretend there wasn’t plenty of drinking, because there was.

“Harry came every morning at 8am, but he just watched and didn’t take the sessions.

“Once we had finished, the players were off to the pool and having a drink.

"There wasn’t anything organised by anyone. It just happened, naturally.

“We were all out. Players got sucked into it, we know that, even if we thought the next day, ‘How can you spend that much money on a night out?’.

“Looking back, it’s hard to believe what we were doing. We know it was unacceptable and unprofessional. It wasn’t good behaviour.

“Harry told us he was upset, especially when he saw two or three players who just weren’t able to train at all. But that was it.”

Redknapp insisted on Friday night his players had “trained harder on this trip than on any trip I’ve ever been on”.

He added: “We worked the maximum, man for man, worked our socks for an hour and a half, every day.

“No one was ever late. I was the first one on the training ground.”

The Rangers boss said he was perplexed by the drinking claims, adding: “If it happened, they must have done something I didn’t see.

"I don’t believe what you are saying. I can’t see it.”

Another player conceded the week was not ideal given the next game was against Manchester United. QPR lost 2-0 at home.

He admitted: “Given that sort of preparation, after a week like that, it was almost impossible for us to play against United.

“Fitness-wise, it was a disaster. When we played United, they didn’t play – they didn’t have to.

"They have some great players, but some aren’t 100 per cent fit and have had injuries – and they were running past us like we don’t exist. That just shouldn’t happen.”

That defeat left Rangers seven points adrift of safety, with games running out. According to another player, too many of the squad believe they are already doomed.

“There’s a feeling from some of us that other players don’t give a s***, that they’re just here for the money,” said the player, a regular starter.

“Some are going around saying they can’t wait for the end of the season so they can move.

“When you hear that, you know the trouble you’re in – 50 per cent of any team is having the right team spirit.

“The manager is supposed to be the leader, but a lot of us think he’s going to leave in the summer as well. If that’s the case how is he going to get the players going?”

Redknapp insisted only last week he would stay, even if relegated, but the player added: “There’s resentment between the players who have clauses in their contracts which will see them take wage cuts if we go down, and those that haven’t.

“At the moment, the foreign players are in one section and the English players in another. There is not enough bonding, no *atmosphere where we fight for each other.

“We all feel bad for the chairman and owner, but they don’t see what’s happening to the club.

“The training ground is like a free-for-all, a million people who shouldn’t be there because they are friends of someone or another. There’s no structure, things are a mess and I’ve never known that at a club before.

“You can’t hope to survive with that chaos. No one wants to be part of a team relegated in disgrace and winning only two games in the season, but that’s the way it’s heading.”

Redknapp was accused of taking his eye off the training ground ball in January, although, as at Spurs – who he took to three successive top-five finishes – he delegates to his coaches, currently Joe Jordan, Steve Cotterill and Kevin Bond.

“During the January window he was barely there,” said one of the players. “A lot of us thought he was concentrating on trying to buy one or two players and forgetting about the 22 already here.

“Our problems aren’t going to be solved by one or two players. It’s a joke.

“The club is in a mess. How can any club like this hope to be in the best league in the world?

"We all have to take responsibility, but what’s happening isn’t right.”

QPR: Rock bottom all year

August 18: England keeper Rob Green, one of a host of big-name summer signings, endures a nightmare debut as Swansea enjoy a 5-0 opening day romp.

November 23: With no wins, Mark Hughes is shown the door as Tony Fernandes moves swiftly to hire Harry Redknapp, then in talks over the Ukraine job.

December 15: The Hoops finally manage to qualify for a Premier League win bonus at the 17th attempt, as they squeeze past Fulham in a 2-1 win, thanks to an Adel Taarabt double.

December 21: But it soon becomes known that Jose Bosingwa had refused to be a sub for the Fulham game. The former Chelsea man was fined heavily.

January 31: Redknapp, having already spent big bucks on France striker Loic Remy, brings in former Blackburn defender Chris Samba. He cost a £12million fee and £100,000 a week in wages.

February 23: The 2-0 defeat at home to Manchester United leaves Rangers rock-bottom, with just 17 points from 27 games. Only two had been won.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qpr-players-lift-lid-five-1738275