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Didi is referring to the thing I posted. Its old news, being made to look like new news apparently. Europol including it to make headlines is the theory. It was investigated, but only as a result of other games in the group being suspicious.
On 24 June 2010 he was banned from all football activities until 30 June 2012 for failing to report an attempted match fixing. Investigations showed these attempts failed, and the offers had been rejected by Poleksić,[1] however UEFA rules state all players and officials must report any match fixing attempt.[2] On 5 May 2011 the Court of Arbitration for Sport rejected the appeal and upheld UEFA decision.[3]
That is what it all comes from. He was the Debrecen keeper at the time.
A lot of professional football players know this is going on and have often been approached but say nothing as it would be more trouble than its worth. Where there is lots if money there is always a dark side. There are loads of footballers out there who surround themselves with shady characters 'suits' and what they get up to is anyone's guess.
English club involvement a shocker as match-fixing is now an epidemic
By David Shonfield
Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Europe’s police authority Europol have been promising to shock the football world for some time with their match-fixing investigations.
At their two-day conference in Rome last month they were already announcing impending revelations. So yesterday’s interim report will be no shock to Uefa and Fifa, who have been helping the police with their inquiries for the past 18 months.
It is more the scale and scope of the conspiracy that is a surprise, particularly its impact on top-flight football and the juicy revelation that an English match is one of two Champions League games involved.
Europol’s investigations owe a lot to the latest betting scandal in Italy, which was first exposed in 2011. It quickly became clear to the Italian police that this was more than the usual affair organised by local gangsters. It involved criminals based in Hungary and the Balkans, money laundering through Switzerland and finance provided from Singapore.
Countries involved in the investigation also include Turkey, Austria and Germany. Betting on rigged matches in Germany alone has come to €16m, with payments of up to €140,000 to those involved. At least 425 people — players, officials and criminals — have so far been implicated although only 50 have been charged so far.
Match-fixing is lucrative but it’s no longer easy money. The football authorities and betting companies have developed sophisticated computer programs to identify suspect gambling patterns and results. For these reasons fraudsters usually target lower league games or smaller countries steering clear of televised matches.
Naturally they also target players and officials who are more likely to be corruptible. International players union Fifpro last year published a survey of over 3,300 footballers in Eastern Europe which revealed that 41% were not paid on time, with a few having to wait six months or more for their wages. One in eight of those in the survey said they had been approached to manipulate a match.
Although there are relatively few top-flight games among the 380 now identified as fixed, Uefa and Fifa are evidently concerned Europol may be right to suggest their investigation is far from complete. That a Champions League game in a major European country could be affected symbolises the fear that the integrity of the sport could be seriously damaged.
Europol refuses to identify which Champions League game was involved beyond saying it was played in England and occurred "over the past three or four years". Judicial proceedings are continuing but fans are bound to wonder which of their team’s matches might have been involved.
Taking an elastic timescale of three or four years then, and going back to 2007, there are 100 games involving English clubs.
Realistically, if a match involving one of England’s top sides was affected it is most likely to be a group stage match against the smaller sides, and possibly one with a strange scoreline.
On this basis one game that raises suspicions was in November 2007 when Liverpool played — and beat — Besiktas at Anfield 8-0. Liverpool put on a brilliant display but it was a freakish scoreline at the time, with the Turkish champions leaving goalkeeper Rustu Recber on the bench — and even more suspect when German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung alleged there had been "frenzied betting" locally on a large number of goals.
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Just looks like every other game of womens football I've ever seen
We managed to rectify it, though, because it now says, "Cook" where it once said "Cock", and "Pass" where it once said "Piss", so it’s slightly less rude.
Match-fixing: reports saying goalkeeper Vukasin Poleksic had acted illegally is old news, say Debrecen
Reports linking Hungarian side Debrecen with match-fixing are merely raking over old ground, the club said in a statement on Tuesday.
Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet reported that Debrecen's 2009 Champions League group match against Liverpool was among 380 suspicious games being investigated by European anti-crime agency Europol, who announced details of its probes on Monday.
A spokesman for Liverpool, who the newspaper report stressed are not under suspicion, said they had not heard from Europol or any other agency regarding the match at Anfield.
The Danish report said matchfixers intended to rig the betting market for total goals in the European club clash, which Liverpool won 1-0, and targeted Debrecen's Montenegrin goalkeeper Vukasin Poleksic.
Debrecen, however, said these allegations have already been dealt with by European soccer's governing body Uefa and Poleksic was given a two-year ban in 2010 for failing to report approaches from alleged fixers ahead of matches against Liverpool and Serie A side Fiorentina in Hungary.
Debrecen said that neither the club nor the player would react to the latest reports and chose instead to republish a statement they issued in 2010.
"In the view of the Uefa Disciplinary Committee, Vukasin Poleksic failed to comply with his duties when he did not report to Debrecen that before two Champions League matches unknown people tried to persuade him to influence the result," the statement read.
"The investigation revealed that Poleksic rejected the requests. Furthermore, the probe found that the matches were not influenced by anything connected with the bribery.
"But the player committed an error by failing to inform the authorities immediately, therefore he was punished for not meeting the reporting requirement."
The case came before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in 2011 when Poleksic's team-mate Norbert Meszaros, who played against both Liverpool and Fiorentina, had his own 18-month ban for the same offence overturned.
CAS annulled the suspension imposed on Debrecen's Meszaros after deciding there was not enough evidence to suggest he had breached Uefa regulations. However, CAS maintained a two-year ban on Poleksic for failing to report the approach.
CAS said there was no evidence that matches had been manipulated.
Debrecen said they will not respond to the allegations.
"Neither DVSC or the player wants to react to this news. Everything on this matter has been dealt with in 2010," said a statement on the Hungarian club's website.
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