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Ohh if Nick Harris says it, it must be right. Oooooh.
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I said this days ago. Everyone is ignoring me
Ohh if Nick Harris says it, it must be right. Oooooh.
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A former Dinamo shareholder claims a 2007 champions league match against Lazio was fixed.
Chain weaknesses Dinamo - Lazio 1-3. Former shareholder "Pulhac is right, Dinu and Borcea negotiated leaf". Dinu: "The shareholder's channel. Vali Nastase slammed." Nastase: "Ask Rednic". Rednic: "It was something fishy"
"Pulhac is right. The game against Lazio was knocked down by MANAGEMENT , and the price paid was the amount of transfer Italian Radu Stefan ". The message on your mobile phone is all the more surprising as it came from a former shareholder of Dynamo , a few hours after ProSport published an interview with Cristi Pulhac. "You can write what I said, but I do not publish the name" was provided former investor. In the interview, the current left defender from Zawisza Bydgoszcz recognized that doubted the match Dinamo - Lazio in August 2007 after the team lost 3-1 Rednic led 1-0 at halftime, "If someone did something to alive pay for it! "Pulhac invoked divine justice.
What Pulhac said in interview
However, much has been said about Dinamo tops. Did you feel at any match that things are not right? I would like an honest answer.
(TACE, then laughs). No, the only game that I was very upset was the match against Lazio.
Why?
(long silence). I do not know, I was angry. (TACE again)
What were you thinking after that game? |
Many. Lots of ... (laughs). A lot of things were. Well, I was upset and all, but I had a good time, we had a good team. I made a very good match in Rome, I made 1-1, and 1-0 in Bucharest drove without Lazio to reach our goal.
Describe a little atmosphere in the locker room after the match against Lazio.
(sighs) Frankly to say, we were not too much in the locker room. AAAAAA. Normal, were blaming anger. It was an opportunity for us to play in the Champions League .
You have been criticized for something?
No.
You have reproached someone or something?
No. I'm not to blame things on nerves and hot.
You've kept you ...
Yes.
How would you describe what happened in the second half against Lazio?
(long silence) Bad luck and inexperience. (Pufneşte laughter)
And something strange?
(TACE long) I said and inexperience.
Your feeling says it happened?
(Again silence of 3-4 seconds). Misfortune.
Your silence is funny.
I have one thing to say. I did not accuse anyone to ever but if someone did something alive each will pay sooner or later. Whether in football or by something else.
Do you believe in divine punishment that?
Yes, you should not punish us as people, others.
Lazio received from UEFA for 16.5 million EUROS
About that Dinamo match against Lazio fake, although it could qualify for the first time in the Champions League, has been written and spoken immediately after the match. Pulhac's statements and testimony of former shareholder are but the first official recognition of some people in the club seven years and a half ago. A few hours later, two other important people from Dinamo, Cornel Dinu Mircea Rednic declared their doubts regarding the fairness of the game.
The stakes in that game was huge. With a team full of valuable players, Dinamo could fulfill his dream of playing in the Champions League, while Lazio - came after a huge scandal rigging matches in which he was involved - lost MONEY many. "25 million the EURO " , says former shareholder. On-site UEFA official figures are published, and the team in Rome received 16.48 million EUROS in bonuses and TV rights as a result of participation in the League after qualification in Bucharest. 'tickets and merchandising Load more here today matches and approaching 25 million, " says an anonymous sponsor. 50,000 Dinamo players have held the evening of 28 August 2007. None sensed then that some of the favorites will be charged with treason
In the interview, he avoided giving names Pulhac, but who betrayed Dinamo? On August 28, 2007, Dinamo took the field following players: Lobont - Blay, birth, Radu Stefan, Pulhac - Off (59 'Chiacu) Ropotan Mărgăritescu (76' Niculescu) Cristea - Bratu, Dănciulescu (72 'Munteanu) . On the bench beside Mircea Rednic remained until the end of the match Dennis Romanovs, Andrei Nitu, Silviu Izvoranu and Liviu Ganea, but they can not be suspected.
An unfair result, I made a very good first half. I told them at halftime in the locker room to look it 1-0, but they made two goals gift. We beat ourselves. Players with experience have made incredible mistakes "
Mircea Rednic , August 28, 2007, at the end of the match Dinamo - Lazio 1-3
Reporters reviewed the full ProSport Second Half of the game to try to find clues. This is what is observed in the phase reversals three goals conceded after the break:
1-1 46 minutes: Dinamo's Pressing the mid Lazio, Adrian Cristea good locks on De Silvestri, but this ball out Mudingayi free. From here the problems begin. Mărgăritescu Ropotan not up to block the player's Lazio, and he has time and space to pass the left hand side, behind Stefan Radu Pulhac. Climbed over the attack, try to withdraw Pulhac and Radu Stefan seems to come from offside line while his colleague, Vali Nastase's 20 yards back. Del Nero has dropped the ball, but Nastase managed to lock focus and recover, but then wanted to go out with the ball at his feet. Fatal mistake. Del Nero stole the ball and made sliding Dynamo defender, committing a foul in the box. It had been 34 seconds of the second half.
1-2 after 54 minutes: Mărgăritescu, unpressed, try to get the ball into the left lane at Pulhac, but the pass is too short and Del Nero recovered. Italian go pass, Radu Stefan comes back to block, but Del Nero pass by it on Rocchi. Marked broad Nastase Rocchi sends the area of Pandev. Macedonian take, Blay stumbles and falls funny and Pandev scored easily.
1-3 after 67 minutes: Ledesma passed to Pandev 30 meters from the gate of Dinamo. Ropotan not close quickly , allowing the Macedonian i think the next pass. How Dinamo came to his defense offside in scale, Pandev passed through Nastase and Radu Stefan for Rocchi, Blay kept in regular position. Put forward Lobonţ pulled apart.
Virtually all visitors Dinamo plus two portions of fasteners have come to Lazio's goals. Who are traitors? Former shareholder: "you were tops in Bucharest at the hotel where guests were sitting. With a little haggling, went a good price. The match against Lazio, the arrangement was made before the game. At halftime, the players were told: <Guys, give yourself a hand!> It may have been a betting business, Dinamo lead at halftime and earn Lazio. Dinu and Borcea treated with Lotito from Lazio. The sale price was not worth Radu Stefan never 4.5 million. They took it as a pickle, then trained him well and left him a good player. "
Former shareholder uses the sum circulated press. Stefan Radu was transferred to Lazio in January 2008, 5 months after the direct match. Impresario John and Victor Becali, while the then immediate from the Dinamo, claimed that the defender went on loan for one million euros, with final purchase option 3.5 million. "The amount of was much higher and there was no loan. I tell you safe " , says another important man in the club at the time. Transfer Stephen club Dinamo had just eliminated it seems and his great oddity. The identity of the character and transaction details you will find little later.
The practice of transferring a player after a rigged game was not new either in Romania or in Italy. In 1997, two Romanian clubs were a comrade of cooperative game with song, Sunderland - National FC 1-3 after announcing the passage as a loan of two players from the winning team from losing. Axinia II and George Barbu were borrowed for attention !, 3 seasons of George Stephen's team Gino Iorgulescu, for a total of $ 200,000, but Axinia returned to Sunderland after a few months. This kind of transaction is often practiced in Italy, where prosecutors in the case Calciopoli observed coincidences between match fixing and exchange of players between teams involved.
Other players have not felt what he felt Pulhac
What players say about the 2007 Dynamo's statements Pulhac and former shareholder? Daniel Opriţa played by the score of 1-2, when it was replaced: "No, I did not feel anything. Honestly. I never ever thought that would be something. I took that goal quickly, we egalaseră, 1-1, but was not lost anything. We went into overtime, but I fell immediately after the goal. I do not think it was anything unclean, do not think that could be something " . His replacement, Hristu Chiacu, says: "There were many discussions, but do not know what to think. Load was too great to think about it. I do not know what to say. I have never been part of anything like it. To realize them, we must do. "
Located on the ground 90 minutes, Adrian Cristea he does not share any feeling of Pulhac: "I felt nothing. I can not say anything. There seemed something out of the ordinary or otherwise. So are people accused Vali Nastase that made countertop, he did not know why. No one told us to lay aside " . Entered on the ground at 3-1 to Lazio, when there was nothing to do, Claudiu Niculescu netitularizării explains why: "I was not in shape. There was no discussion in the locker room. I did not feel anything. I do not know why he felt Pulhac. It's his job he said. E major. "
While players throughout the negatives, one of the men who were Dinamo club organization Protocol reveals how did the official dinner before the game. "He became a fashionable restaurant where, besides the House of the People, behind seat SRI. It was the first protocol Dinamo made there, until then did the Aquarium. It was a restaurant decorated with paintings on the walls, Romanian music. Tam-nisam appeared there Ioan Becali who monopolized the entire conversation with the President of Lazio, Claudio Lotito. Lotito did not know, but you got to talk to him. At one point, Becali took a picture on the wall and I did Lotito's gift. "
What search Ioan Becali, agent 13 of the 14 players who were to play against Lazio at the official dinner? What spoke to Lotito, one that would do business in just five months, the transfer of Radu Stefan?
In August 2007, Claudio Lotito came just after a 4-month suspension imposed by the Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) for involvement in the Calciopoli scandal triggered rigging matches in the previous summer. Initially, the owner and also the President of Lazio was suspended 3 years and 6 months, but the sentence was reduced successively until a period of 4 months, dictated in December 2006 for "rigging of games using referees". Initially, Lazio was relegated, but the team remained in Serie A on appeal. He received a stay of only two matches behind closed doors and the prohibition of playing in the UEFA Cup 2006-2007 season. A year later, qualifying in Champions League beating in Bucharest in a match considered arranged.
What search Pairetto suspended in Bucharest?
Another Romanian who spoke with Lotito before the match was lost 3-1 delegated administrator of Dinamo, Cornel Dinu. He knew a few years Lotito: "We have known Lotito. It's from a poor family, is an evil guy. I have always entertained the pockets full of phones. National Alliance was put in environments in Italy. Bought at Cragnotti Lazio, which was bankrupt, with 57 million euros. He took money from Banca di Roma ".
Accused by former shareholder that he treated worktop Lotito, Dinu had a surprising response: "I've had total belief that the match has been dropped because Lazio has not played anything in the game that, although Lotito is blind. He came to Bucharest with Pairetto, who was head of the Italian referees and at the same time was also the referees committee of UEFA. I got to cool the break. << Yo, do not play anything! >> " . Dinu's statement contains two important information. The first is his belief that the game was rigged, the second is testimony to the presence of Pierluigi Pairetto game from the former National Stadium. Pairetto was until the summer of 2006 head of the Italian referees, but resigned for his involvement in the Calciopoli scandal. I get calls from presidents of clubs, including Luciano Moggi and Claudio Lotito, and sent them arbitrators 'home' matches in European Cups or Serie A.
On the evening of August 28, 2007, the National stadium bleachers, Pairetto was in a state of suspension after CONI had forbidden any connection with football over a period of 2 years and 6 months.
According to Dinu, still used his influence Pairetto of UEFA referees committee and came to Bucharest to ensure that Lazio qualify if the Romanians play for real. The match, Spaniard Manuel Mejuto was delegated Gonzalez, who refereed the 2005 UEFA Champions League if he had to "blind" Lazio, Dinamo spared the effort unsightly. Romanian team simply disintegrated in the second half.
If you look in the newspapers of the time, the doctors Dinamo were tops. Dinamo not qualify for any important match in Europe
Former Dinamo shareholder
"Nastase slammed and match with Lazio, and match with Benfica"
Dinu vehemently denies any discussion about a countertop Lotito: "A shareholder who told me it can not only be Vladimir Cohn. It's a scoundrel. I could not do countertop, I witnessed the match. Who had authority over the players could do that. I am convinced that match with Lazio was thrown. Coincidentally, it was slammed by the same person who threw me off with Benfica thousand in 1999. Vali Nastase. 44 minutes into the match gave Benfica fist and was eliminated, I lost the qualification. I found out that a man entourage club and players met on game day at the Crowne Plaza with Jupp Heynckes who was Benfica's coach. "
Executive Officer refuses to disclose the identity of the negotiator of the 1999 scenario seems the same as in 2007 when Ioan Becali Lotito met at the official dinner. With 8 years ago, corresponded agent described "man entourage club and players" and, coincidentally, you represent and then Vali Nastase indicated by Dinu player treason. "It's not coincidence that he also wrong with Benfica" says delegated administrator
Accused of Dinu, Vali Nastase is defended by Daniel stopped. "Rednic all scold him not long ball out of defense and, on top, but it was the defense of Italy. There are not too play football. Long Dai, do not go out with her leg in defense. Rednic kept telling them to stop banging the ball. Pass! He tried to take over the area, to no longer give long, and put that down " . Penalty 46 minutes into the match drew committed Nastase dislike of fellow locker room immediately after the match. "There were heated discussions, Vali got angry and left , "recalls Opriţa, now head coach at Resita, in the second league. Chiacu says that "after the game started swearing".
Pulhac is a stupid, he can not speak. Why did he say now? Why not say immediately after the game? Why we Romanians do not have the courage to say things in front!? |
Vali Nastase
Nastase: "Rednic asked me, almost to his knees." Rednic: "Nastase asked to play"
How to protect but the main accused? Fourth coach in the league, FC Arges 1953 Nastase read his interview Pulhac, but the phone was kindled after learning about Dinu's statements. "I want someone to tell me if I did ever a countertop. Lazio if he wanted to arrange a match should not arrange Nastase I was not attacking player, I was not a great value. We age, 33 years.
I think when not to play. Ask Rednic, if not perverse or crooked, how many days I have trained myself to match that. I played in the tour, 14, do not know how, the return was played on August 28, 2007, that I remember the date because it hurts me. We played in the tour, I made a fibrillar rupture and no I trained. Ask Rednic if it's true that I trained 10 days. Ask the doctor and that gave me injections, that there was just me and Niţu. Who we played the mark I do not remember? With Radu Stefan? I played and I left right, right? Ask Rednic, if correct, the quarterback who put central and prayed me how to play at this game. If you do not play I would have entered the boy's riveting, was 18. He asked me Rednic, in the knees praying to play the game " , said Nastase.
Mircea Rednic has another version: "I do not bag a player says he's apt. I do not I put my head, I had prepared the game with quarterback Ropotan central . Vali must hold, but I had injured. Goian was suspended, Moti was injured as a loser in training before the game. A sprain made a play that stupid. I and fight for it.
He still had only apt and Radu Stefan Nastase not result in a week. He asked me to play. I asked him: <Yo, can you play?> He said he can. He did a test before the game, I did not put myself. I Ropotan solution, do not know what came out, but that was the solution. Maybe I was wrong not trained and I got ".
They made the connection that I had played with Ascoli against Lazio. After 88 minutes it was 1-0 to Ascoli and beat Lazio 2-1. I was wrong on an empty
Vali Nastase
Rednic said he did not want Nastase, but i to imposed Borcea
Another kind of guilt has Nastase: "I was stupid because I played and I said I take physique. So God endowed me. We played well in the first half and I said I could go all the way off, but that was phase. And when we played in Italy, if you are not focused one second get naked. So it was then. " Despite the error of 46 minutes, the former quarterback central supports his innocence in a firm voice: "I have a clear conscience, I have not got any money. Everything depended on me at that game, everything depended on me, I could not help, I helped with that. Who's going to tell me I got money to take her flowers " .
Rednic not accuse him birth but has a vision about the match close to the former shareholder and Dinu. The man who sat on the bench to match with Lazio clearly says: "And it seemed to me dubious return match. The main reason was the sale of Radu immediately after and just in Lazio. Then surprised me very much that Vali Nastase was brought upon me by Cristi Borcea a few weeks before the match with Lazio. I I wanted Giani Kiriţă. More surprising was that Vali Nastase and were given 60,000 euros when he came to the signature, after which it was fired. I told him Cristi: <You can not give him 60,000 euros, that we buried. Ask him even half the money back!> And he saith <Leave Mircea, it's also damn boy. Here, we give out, we send Bistrita> He said it casually as easy and let him go. "
Rednic reveals that Nastase have a state of irritation since the break when driving Dinamo 1-0 score which was qualified. "I know it took a player, reproached something. His Bratu or can not remember who. She was a little nervous. Then I saw no phase Penalty. I came from the field, the match started. I was on the way to the bank and at one point I saw these hands to the head. <What happened, I?>. Supposedly, penalty. I never saw play. I saw it on TV, then. Finally, I said I can not, in 46 minutes to 16 meters decisive attack. You should feel, that was the side. Then Nastase had an exchange with me which made me think. He told me that if I do not agree, do not bag him. "
Well, he was wrong Nastase. Well, the other they had to do !? To err, and they !? Put Blay was Mircea Rednic player, wrong twice and blamed everything on me
Vali Nastase
Nastase left soccer 6 months
Rednic claims that Nastase was kicked out by the shareholders, Nastase said that he gave: "After the episode with Lazio, I quit six months of football. I stayed home, I did not train. I grab a bargain and we were lucky wife who encouraged me. <Bathrooms, Vali, you can not even play some football that said you did not know that?> I played then a year and a half in Braunschweig, Germany's third league, which does not compare even with Ligue 2 from us. They were extraordinary circumstances were and money. Then I came home and I left four months. Then I gave an interview to a local newspaper in which I said that I want to play football, but there's no way the Romanian mentality. Romanians exploit you, they want to sell you. At my age, nobody make any money on me. I called Uncle Jean. <Vali, what money you want, man?> I said I wanted that. He said to me: <Well, you age. You left. I leave for two months to train my money. In a business must lose someone>. That said, in his own words. He knows, lives. Too bad that's where not worth it. I trained two months and those with whom I trained Nastase said they can play. After that came Halagian teacher and told me: <Maistre, if you want to quit playing two years must be to lose 5-6 pounds. And I lost and I played three years, from 2009 to 2012. In Ligue 1, I beat Dinamo, I removed and the Star of Romania Cup. Then I was countertop !? "
If I blatist, 31 years not make me one. I went to Bistrita and played until 38 years
Vali Nastase
At 5 months after the match, Radu Stefan colleague Nastase in central defense that August evening, he transferred to Lazio. The press wrote about a loan with option to buy, the total is 4.5 million. Rednic denies categorically: "No, no, no. There were 7.2 million euros. I'll tell you for sure " . Coach 2007 has another surprise: "To sell a player almost 8 million seemed incredible. Well, you give 7 million on a player for 20 years in Romania !? Ok, he confirmed, well, that had those eyes. ... There were 7 million euros plus VAT. Just as we walked into the UEFA Champions League if. Both take Dinamo then. Lazio got more. "
If Rednic's statement is true, the transfer of Radu Stefan may be the subject of a new investigation to prosecutors on the amounts reported in the departures footballers in Romania. Also, if the words are real, without the knowledge of her supporters, Dinamo participated in an edition of the Champions League, but only in terms of financial recipe. Matches with the great teams of Europe long for fans remained an illusion that seems to Dinamo and stopped his hunt.
Mircea Rednic said that game against Lazio at the register. "Do not blame the players, accused the other. Players were puppets. And I said at one point: <either players or me!> That I had evidence that's not right. And what they did !? They gave me out of the Dynamo. After that you have done? All appealed to me. The match against Lazio I have evidence, but who did pay for it. "
In 2007, the year match against Italian businessman accused of rigging matches began file transfers. Two of the characters whose names appear in the above statements, Cristi Borcea and Ioan Becali, were sentenced to six years and four months in prison. One of the charges was repeated deception, and the victim was called Dinamo Bucharest.Comment
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Suspicious-looking Albanian league game descends into slapstick farce
After a well-fought 87 minutes, with the score delicately poised at 1-1, there was a rather curious climax to the Albanian Superliga match between Flamurtari Vlore and Teuta Durres.
Flamurtari, the home side, seemed intent on pushing for the winner, as one would expect. Rather more peculiar are the visiting defence’s increasingly shambolic efforts to allow it to happen, which perhaps didn’t account for Flamurtari’s woeful finishing. It all adds up to a rollercoaster tale of deceit and ineptitude:
87 mins
Exhibit A. Flamurtari defender Vukasin Tomic is given the freedom of the Teuta six-yard box to fire home what would surely be the winner. Unfortunately for him (and, possibly, a third party) his shot is straight at the goalkeeper and rebounds to safety.
91 mins
Exhibit B. Into injury time now, and Flamurtari striker Nijaz Lena fires through a forest of half-hearted Teuta legs, and the despairing non-existent dive from the goalkeeper, only for the ball to whistle past the far post. If there is something fishy going on here, the home side are unwittingly sabotaging it with their genuinely wayward finishing.
92 mins
Exhibit C. Forward Arber Abilaliaj races in behind the Teuta defence, one of whom oddly decides to give up the chase. As the goalkeeper falls backwards – a method conspicuously absent from the Peter Schmeichel goalkeeping handbook – the shot is hit straight at him.
93 mins
Things start to get a little silly at this point. Flamurtari’s Dejvi Bregu strikes from the edge of the area, Teuta defender Julian Ahmataj welcomes the shot past him like a restaurant maitre d’, and goalkeeper Bledvan Rizvani’s suspiciously unorthodox save presents Alfred Deliallisi with a golden chance…but the ball bobbles away.
94 mins
Abilaliaj tries again, taking advantage of Teuta’s laissez-faire approach to man-marking, to nod home a simple winn…nope, no, he heads wide. Note the Teuta centre-half putting his hand to his head in disbelief.
94 mins – GOAL!
With the seconds ticking down, Teuta appear to be forced to take matters into their own hands. The goalkeeper takes an inexplicably risky goal-kick, and the ball pinballs between two of his teammates. As the ball conveniently bounces back into the box, there’s another Teuta defender on hand to clear the danger, which he spectacularly fails to do. With little more than 30 seconds left, Ardit Shehaj finally has the chance to snatch all three points for Flamurtari and he pokes the ball past Rizvani to make it 2-1.
The home fans were distinctly unimpressed, turning their backs at the final whistle in protest at what they later declared as “a gift”.
Flamurtari’s club president Sinan Idrizi issued a statement condemning the farce:
A comedy of embarrassment in a country that has no clear rules in any area of life. We are dealing with a league which has many questions. Here the problem is the system. He that plays clean is weaker.
The club have demanded an investigation by the Albanian football authorities and, if it is not forthcoming, they have threatened to withdraw from the league.Comment
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