Premier League agrees new financial regulations

[Arn]

And Man Utd's £50m interest payments goes under the radar.

Yes, their turnover is high and their wage bill is in relative order, but they are servicing debts of £365m whilst their owners continue to squeeze every available pound.

It's all sustainable whilst they're successful, but surely Man Utd's cycle of success must be coming to an end and where they go from there will be ****ing awesome to see.

They don't really have a problem. They can sell the club whenever they want and make a big profit and suddenly they have no debt at all.

[G]

United were valued at $3.51billion by forbes. We were $658m or something similar.

If they ever get rid of the Glazers their financial abilities will dwarf anyone else.

Even with the Glazers their wages to turnover is 51%,mainly due to their massive income. They are a commercial wealth machine. How we've fallen so far behind them in those stakes is ****ing criminal.

Our numbers are piss poor for the second most successful club in the country and one of the biggest names in world football.

[Frenchie]

United were valued at $3.51billion by forbes. We were $658m or something similar.

If they ever get rid of the Glazers their financial abilities will dwarf anyone else.

Even with the Glazers their wages to turnover is 51%,mainly due to their massive income. They are a commercial wealth machine. How we've fallen so far behind them in those stakes is ****ing criminal.

Our numbers are piss poor for the second most successful club in the country and one of the biggest names in world football.

but surely the contrarian theory would be that they are at saturation point and coming to the end of an era, whereas we are on the road to recovery, with more match day revenue (bigger stadium) and a commercial team that is on rapid growth..

[barnes10]

We were valued at $1 bn by Forbes were we not?

[Vermilion]

Chelsea's net debt of £878 MILLION POUNDS is incredible.

Dwarfs everyone elses, except utd, but it's still more than twice their amount.

Arsenal £98m
Villa £122mill
Blackburn £25m
Bolton £137m
Chavs £878m
Everton £46m
Fulham £4m
Liverpool £87m
Man City £58m
utd £366m
Newcastle £129m
Norwich Nil. £1m in Bank.
QPR £89m
Stoke £14m
Sunderland £84
Swansea Nil.£5m in Bank.
Spurs £70m
WBA £0.5m
Wigan £12m
Wolves Nil. £13m in Bank.

[G]

but surely the contrarian theory would be that they are at saturation point and coming to the end of an era, whereas we are on the road to recovery, with more match day revenue (bigger stadium) and a commercial team that is on rapid growth..

We've been saying they are coming to the end for years,they still find a way to be competitive and win things and as long as that happens they will earn money.

As for us,I haven't seen any rapid growth,slow growth yes.At the rate we've been growing it'll take decades of them standing still before we can touch them.

They've a 20 year head start.

Our commercial growth will be hampered the longer we stay an irrelevance in the European and English game as we are now.

[G]

We were valued at $1 bn by Forbes were we not?

$651m. United were actually $3.165 Billion

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlm45eigjk/10-liverpool/

[Arn]

$651m. United were actually $3.165 Billion

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlm45eigjk/10-liverpool/

Moores

[Norbs]

Did anyone else notice our turnover was based on 10 months as opposed to everyone else's 12?

Pro-rata our yearly t/o would be close to £200m then so far nearer to the top 4 than first seems. And equally importantly, far and away above Spurs

[Norbs]

utd

[G]

Yeah we changed our accounting year so it coincides with the football season hence the shorter year

[Frenchie]

We've been saying they are coming to the end for years,they still find a way to be competitive and win things and as long as that happens they will earn money.

As for us,I haven't seen any rapid growth,slow growth yes.At the rate we've been growing it'll take decades of them standing still before we can touch them.

They've a 20 year head start.

Our commercial growth will be hampered the longer we stay an irrelevance in the European and English game as we are now.

Bottom line is has FSG been making cash available? Yes they have and if Rodgers buys as wisely as Coutinho then we are more than capable of improving..

[G]

And if we don't and Suarez leaves then we stand still or go backwards again. They have made money available but when I look at the likes of Spurs and their squad,we haven't spent it very well.

A lot of if's,we'll see how it goes.1 out and out success of a transfer out of 4 so far doesn't bode well,especially when we need to them all to be success's pretty much instantly.

[Frenchie]

well if Suarez leaves then we will have a pile of cash...It's all about our new scouts and correct decision making..

[G]

It's in indeed.

Our new scouts as far as I can see may conceivably only been involved in our January signings and even then it's clear Sturridge was a target before that team was in place so if Coutinho is their first collective effort then it's a good start.

I think we'll get one more season from Luis to show him our ambition matches his.

I hope it does.