The Non-League Football Thread

[Le Chef]

if you were a fan of either club???

On the Bolton one, I don't give a ****, ****house club since the move from Burnden Park.

Said it for years, that the PL money was going somewhere other than the club and I don't mean Eddie Davies. Too many deals with the manger and chairman, whereby both got a cut...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/27/bolton-premier-league-money-ken-anderson-phil-gartside

[Norbs]

No. Reduced the relegation places to 3 (presumably 2 if both go) and retain 4 promotion spots. Bottom of l2 standard

Who would fill the slack?

[ChesterDave]

Ground/Car park worth a few bob tho, hence Steve Dale

Sorry, meant this C&N Sporting Risk outfit. Never had the money to buy. But yeah, that's usually the reason

[ChesterDave]

On the Bolton one, I don't give a ****, ****house club since the move from Burnden Park.

Said it for years, that the PL money was going somewhere other than the club and I don't mean Eddie Davies. Too many deals with the manger and chairman, whereby both got a cut...

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-phil-gartside

A dodgy chairman and manager should define the club for the players, club staff, fans, and town. Given our issues with ****ty owners in the past we should understand that. They haven't done anything to deserve it.

Who would fill the slack?

Not sure what you mean. Would be a 22 or 23 team league promotion to and relagation from The Championship would be unaffected. 2 or 3 instead of 4 teams would be relegated to league 2. 4 teams would still be promoted from league 2.

Then there will either be no or reduced relegation to non league, additional promotion from non league to balance the 92. Below national league will like be balanced at regional tiers

[Norbs]

Not sure what you mean..... additional promotion from non league to balance the 92.

I think that's what I asked

[ChesterDave]

Bury expelled from football league.

[RichC]

The fit and proper tests need looking at, letting Dale take over was a massive mistake who clearly has only seen this as an opportunity for some short term profit.

[dom9]

The fit and proper tests need looking at, letting Dale take over was a massive mistake who clearly has only seen this as an opportunity for some short term profit.

Would they not have just gone bankrupt at that point anyway (I don't know the answer to that btw)?

I think that this expectation that there will be 92 fit and proper people with the means and ability to run all the football clubs at any one time is unrealistic tbh.

What I'd like to see, and it's too late for this (should have been part of the model for running clubs since they formed) is true fan ownership. A pipe dream.

So we are where we are. And it's going get any better.

The rich will get richer and the poor and incompetent will go to the wall.

[S-RED]

How was dale allowed to buy the club for £1.

Disgraceful comments from him again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/49493207?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5d662705169570066e511d2a%26ICYMI%262019-08-28T07%3A02%3A30.243Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:dc0b9806-88e2-4a9e-9894-9dc9e622a13e&pinned_post_asset_id=5d662705169570066e511d2a&pinned_post_type=share

[RichC]

Would they not have just gone bankrupt at that point anyway (I don't know the answer to that btw)?

I think that this expectation that there will be 92 fit and proper people with the means and ability to run all the football clubs at any one time is unrealistic tbh.

What I'd like to see, and it's too late for this (should have been part of the model for running clubs since they formed) is true fan ownership. A pipe dream.

So we are where we are. And it's going get any better.

The rich will get richer and the poor and incompetent will go to the wall.

The type of ownership is unlikely to change any time soon but there is certainly work that could be undertaken to improve the regulations on ownership, I mean looking at this they didn’t even bother to go through the usual process which is awful.

The process should at the very least be carried out as it’s supposed to be.

[RichC]

How was dale allowed to buy the club for £1.

Disgraceful comments from him again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/foo...ost_type=share

Standard practice tbh, he’s brought the club for a token value whilst also taking on the debt and ongoing running of the business

[ChesterDave]

Would they not have just gone bankrupt at that point anyway (I don't know the answer to that btw)?

Possibly, I suppose. But it could have prevented a bid that had the chance to be successful. Now, 8 months further down the line more damage has been done and its too late.

[Norbs]

Standard practice tbh, he’s brought the club for a token value whilst also taking on the debt and ongoing running of the business

It'd be interesting to see a list of things bought for a pound. Oh hang on...

From Homebase to Chelsea FC

[ChesterDave]

Sounds like a profitable bit of asset stripping too. Ground is leased. Presumably from a company owned by Dale. So he can flog that on the side while all the directors of Bury can go whistle.

[baitman]

Just reading about the bolton and bury issues on bbc...

Bolton, meanwhile, had been in administration since May and have found themselves in court at least once a year since 2015.
In 2017, a company which owned more than a third of shares in the club was wound up - and that was after former owner Ken Anderson had reportedly been paid £525,000 in consultancy fees.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49495387