Originally posted by Shaggy
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His stats speak for themselves...
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In your ****ing face Robert Snodgrass!
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He's a wide forward mate. Wasn't such a pointless statement after all was itOriginally posted by Havors View Postpersonally I like defenders that can tackle and head the ball....
He is a striker, **** how he dribbles down the wings. And the guy has strength and tekkers, sorted snap him up!
The only down side is he seems like an absolute prick, i can see him and suarez spending half the season in the stands together.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be excited if we signed him. I just think there's more to this discussion than fawning praise. Its very encouraging that the athletico fans don't want him to go anyway.K ris90210Comment
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somebody at sky must of got the papers on the way in
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Originally posted by PTP View Postfor Barnyard
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johnson-----------skrtel---------agger--------------Enrique
-------------------Lucas---------Gerrard------------
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suarez--------------------sturridge----------------costa
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kelly---------------toure----------wisdom------------???
---------------------allen----------henderson--------
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downing-----------------borini/aspas----------------ibe/sterling
i'd be ****ing buzzing looking at that. Looks like the strongest squad for a long time.
Originally posted by Pablo1981 View PostIn your ****ing face Robert Snodgrass!
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The finish at 1.05 is something
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxr1gzcrURU"]Diego Costa - Welcome to Liverpool? - YouTube[/ame]Akloppalypse Now !Comment
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Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.Comment
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This bit from the Ballache interview suggests to me he would be very happy to play as a wider forward with Sturridge.
Him and Suarez cutting in from the wider positions with Sturridge through the middle and Coutinho behind is dreamlike stuff.GB: Would you describe yourself as a modern centre forward who can play in various positions or how would you describe yourself?
DC: I don’t really like playing as an out and out centre forward. I like getting the ball in wide areas and being in possession all the time. If I’m not seeing enough of the ball I get quite agitated which is why I come looking for it and naturally drop out wide. I don’t know how you would describe me exactly.
GB: So that’s why, for example, you fit in well with Falcao.
DC: Exactly, because Falcao is a traditional centre forward. Falcao is tremendous and I’m delighted to be able to play alongside him. I hope things keep going as well as they are now.Comment
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Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
Maybe I meant Coster? :everydayisbadpunday:
I'm ashamed just for laughing at that.
Originally posted by fah-q View PostI once scored a goal in every game I scored in.
You're the kind of player we need. These professionals are rubbish, they never score in games in they don't score in and it really brings down their averages.
I read your whole post with interest but as soon as I finished all I could think about was that they probably conducted the interview in Spanish and so what was the original wording of this:Originally posted by Barnyard View Post
My guess was "Falcao es tremendoso". I've just looked it up and it was close enough.Falcao is tremendous
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Falcao es tremendo!Originally posted by Neil Young View PostMy guess was "Falcao es tremendoso". I've just looked it up and it was close enough.
Spanish is easy, just add an 'O' to every other word.
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That's what I did!
Si, es muy fácil.
Aunque Google Translate es aún más fácil.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Detailed information about how the release clause works in Spain. Atletico can still reject the offer.
Sid Lowe
Aguero claims don't quite ring true
Miguel-Ángel Gil Marín this past week announced -- and "announced" is the word -- that Real Madrid had offered €45 million ($61M) for Atlético Madrid forward Sergio "El Kun" Aguero. He also said that Chelsea had made a huge €60M ($81M) joint bid for Aguero and Uruguayan center back Diego Godín. But don't worry, he added proudly, we said no. And that was that. That was also pretty much the point.
Soon the story appeared on the BBC in London. And soon after it appeared in the Spanish press, tagged with that favorite line, get-out clause and must be true credibility ticket rolled into one: according to sources in England. The story was made all the more real because it was backed up by quotes that were absolutely categorical. Not just any quotes, either, but quotes from Atlético's chief executive and majority shareholder -- son of the former owner Jesús Gil y Gil. And he should know.
He should indeed know. In fact, he does know. The trouble is, sometimes it's not enough to know what someone said; sometimes it's a good idea to ask why they said it. What exactly do they know? Why did they chose to "reveal" it? And are they telling the truth?
Real Madrid publicly denied that it had made a bid. Chelsea do not publicly comment on transfer stories but privately it denied it too. There was no follow-up, no second bid, no battle. Not yet, anyway.
There was also something not quite right about the claim. Aguero's official buyout clause is €45M. Which begs two questions. One, if his buyout clause is €45M why would you turn down a €45M bid? And two, how could you turn it down? After all, isn't that what a buyout clause is for? If someone offers that amount, you have no choice, right?
Right. And wrong. That's sort of how it works, but not exactly how it works.
Spain's buyout clauses have often been set up as a deterrent -- symbolic, gigantic figures to warn off suitors. Sergio Busquets has just renewed his deal with Barcelona for example and his buyout clause is now €150M ($204M). But they do also have a practical use. They form part of a legal framework and also a gentleman's agreement between clubs. Which is why the price is not always the price. Because clubs are not always gentlemanly about it.
Under the terms of that basic agreement, clubs accepted that another club which paid the buyout clause could sign a player without resistance. If it's €45M, you pay €45M and you take your player, no mess and no fuss. It is, essentially, a price set at which you say you will sell.
But you don't necessarily have to sell at that price; that agreement has a legal foundation that is a little different. At an informal level, the modus operandi has been altered since Real Madrid walked off with Luis Figo for the symbolic but just about manageable figure of 10,000M pesetas. The buyout clause remains, but the application of it is different.
Now most clubs are saying: this is the buyout clause, sure, but if you make a hostile bid, a bid that we do not welcome, we will force you to apply the clause legally. And when you apply the law legally, that is a different issue. When you apply the law legally, it is a different price.
That means one of two things, both of which increase the price. Firstly, it can mean adding the VAT at 18 percent. In the past, clubs have agreed to include VAT in the invoice for a player's transfer (which of course can be claimed back from the state).
Now, if the bid is hostile, they will not. In other words, the buying club will have to pay the clause plus the 18 percent. So, Aguero's price rises from €45M to €53.1M ($72M).
The other option is for a club to simply refuse to sell -- until, that is, it is forced to. That's where the legal buyout clause kicks in, Decreto Real 1006/1985. But that decree is exactly what it says it is: a buyout clause. A player (not the club) deposits the money, the value of the buyout clause, at the Spanish league and unilaterally breaks his contract. That money, of course, would be given to him by the buying club in order to buy himself out. The problem is that as soon as that money hits his account it counts as income -- even if it is then deposited elsewhere. And so it is liable to taxation at 44 percent. In other words, the €45M is the amount left after taxation. That is to say that Aguero's overall cost is €80.2M ($109M).
The other factor that's significant is that the buyout clause is a Spanish agreement. When it comes to international transfers -- to bids from aboard like the one supposedly from Chelsea -- it is irrelevant. Except as a symbolic price, a reference point from which you can negotiate.
All of which reinforces Gil Marín's position.
Or appears to. Because the other things buyout clauses offer clubs is protection. In a sense, they are a sleight of hand. Every player has a price, every club too. With or without a clause. When you set a buyout clause, you set a price at which you would sell a player and, just as importantly, you give yourself an excuse. When fans complain that you have let your star go, you simply respond: we couldn't do anything about it, they paid the buyout clause.
And that is the key here. Sergio Aguero recently renewed his contract with Atlético Madrid. In return for doing so, his buyout clause came down from €60M ($80M) to €45M. Fans feared that meant he was making himself more affordable for future clubs; signing a new deal might look like committing yourself to Atlético for longer but, they feared, it was actually a prelude to a departure. The same process had happened before with Fernando Torres.
It is not just about the player. Publicly, the club would never say so but the drop in the buyout clause suits it too. It offers a price -- a more reachable price -- at which other clubs know that they would negotiate while setting that price high and also providing the excuse. The trouble is, some fans started to suspect as much. Some feared that Atlético -- already seemingly in a slow but steady decline -- was preparing the ground for its best player to go.
Which is exactly why Gil Marín spoke out. Who stands to gain when a club loudly announces a huge bid -- and one it has bravely, heroically turned down? The club itself. Gil Marín.
Amid fears that Aguero was going to depart and criticism of the chief executive for preparing that departure, Gil Marín defended himself. He tried to shift any future blame elsewhere and to underline his resolve: if Aguero goes, it will not be our fault, we will fight to keep him until the law says we can fight no more. He tried to rehabilitate himself and his club in the eyes of the fans. Basically, he boasted. If the reaction from the other two clubs involved is anything to go by, it was an empty boast. A lie.
This week Miguel-Ángel Gil Marín did not so much announce that he had turned down huge bids for Sergio Aguero as announce that he will not sell the club's best player. Even though the inescapable reality is that, one day, that is exactly what he will do.
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Diego Costa scouting report: Hot-headed Brazilian who hustles defenders and moves intelligently
2 Aug 2013 11:41
La Liga expert David Cartlidge takes a look at the 24-year-old striker, who is a target for Liverpool and didn't take an interest in football until his late teens
Just when it seemed Liverpool couldn’t sign a more antagonising, irritating nuisance of player after they snapped up Iago Aspas, interest has emerged in Diego Costa. Despite these descriptions, both have one thing in common: they’re good players.
Costa’s status has been one of infamy in Spain for his run-ins with Sergio Ramos, first during his loan at Rayo Vallecano when taking a Ramos elbow to the chin then again on several occasions with Atletico Madrid. These run-ins, along with various other players and teams, have overshadowed the fact how much his game has improved from a footballing point of view. 59 yellow cards and 7 red cards in over 160 games since coming to Spain doesn't help.
Costa’s beginnings are fascinating. He never had any interest in football until later in his teens, instead wanting to “work, earn money, and take a girl out for a meal”. An incident when he couldn’t afford a date for a certain love interest embarrassed him badly, and stuck with him. He didn’t play in any team until he was 16, even then his background hindered him. There was no natural footballing ability in Costa, it was pure street football. “My school has been the street” he told Spanish outlet El Pais in an interview.
That this hot-headed youngster would play a part in him being spotted by a scout is perhaps no surprise. A member of Jorge Mendes’ scouting department came to watch a game that featured Costa, but it was a game he shouldn’t have even been playing in. Costa had slapped an opponent and subsequently went for the referee, earning himself a four month ban. Somehow he managed to escape the sentence, and impress the visiting scout.
A stint in Portugal with Sporting Braga was then followed by a move to Spain and Atleti, who loaned him out on various occasions, which Costa himself cites as vital and led to him meeting some important figures in his steps to becoming this now recognised striker and Liverpool target. A few professional issues have been overcome, including turning up for pre-season overweight and the odd punctuality problem.
At Atleti last season he blossomed not with grace but instead with vigour. There were many ups and downs in terms of his football, from being substituted by Diego Simeone because of his temper, poor decision-making on the ball and lack of composure when in front of goal. Costa’s lack of early football training are perhaps to blame, and what lessons others will learn when they’re 13 or 14 he’s learned at 20 or 21.
What Costa offered though was invaluable, especially to a team like Atleti built in the style of their equally fiery coach Simeone. He too was a temperamental character and has perhaps seen something of himself in Costa, and the guidance offered by the Argentinean has been extremely fruitful. Costa’s aggressive not only in the literal sense of the word but his style of play is too - he's quick, raw, powerful and generally explosive.
Costa’s not one for patience, instead he looks to hit defences directly and drive at them not with the technique or agility, but pure forcefulness, bullying them. He’s shown slight glimpses of that Samba flair but they’ve been extremely fleeting, as he prefers to focus on the natural elements to his game like strength and pace.
Off the ball he’s improved massively too, again another chink in his armour created by Simeone. He hustles and presses off the ball closing down defenders and midfielders, making sure his warm breath runs down their necks.
It’s running with intelligence and dropping deep, supporting the defensive phases, that have impressed too. His positional sense has been praised by Luiz Felipe Scolari, the Brazil coach who recently called him up to the full squad, because of the smart moves he makes and decisions taken when without possession.
Radamel Falcao also spoke glowingly of his ex-teammate with much of the Colombian’s end product the result of a Costa move pulling away a defender, or even directly assisting. Costa’s been often deployed wide right (with licence to cut in) and as a second striker, either way showing flexibility in the front line. Aspas’ traits are similar too, when it comes to positioning.
Without the lack of a natural creative player, Costa’s timely influence has been vital behind the line of attack and within it. His goal against Real Madrid in the Copa Del Rey showed his versatility and striking prowess, as he timed a run and latched onto the end of a Falcao pass. Costa bent his run and made himself the focal point of the attack. A move like this was unthinkable a year before, Costa was looked upon as simply too raw.
It’s worth keeping in mind Costa has just the single season of genuine success behind him, but the potential is there with a view to making him a real force. €22m is a significant amount of money in this regard but the market these days has its way of dictating things for various players of type. The doubts about Costa's temperament are clear and obvious, but so should his talent and ability – often these parts are ignored.Comment
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