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    #10036


    Former France defender Jean-Pierre Adams has died at the age of 73, almost 40 years after falling into a coma following a medical error.

    His former clubs, Paris St Germain and Nimes, confirmed his death on Monday.

    In 1982, Adams was administered a near-fatal dose of anaesthetic ahead of a routine knee operation, which caused brain damage.

    The Dakar-born Adams had won 22 caps for Les Bleus in the 1970s, forming a formidable partnership with Marius Tresor.

    He played for Nimes from 1970-73 and for PSG from 1977-79 after joining from Nice.

    Since the accident, Adams has been cared for by his wife, Bernadette.
    "I will make the boys feel your support"
    Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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      #10037
      Ugh.

      What a nightmare, never heard of him but that is properly playing on some deep routed fears of mine.
      Modifying post.

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        #10038
        I don't understand why you would keep someone on life support for nearly 40 yrs.
        "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

        "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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          #10039
          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
          Ugh.

          What a nightmare, never heard of him but that is properly playing on some deep routed fears of mine.
          Aye....

          CNN's pice from a bit back has some information around what transpired

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/04/football/football-jean-pierre-adams-coma/index.html


          "Jean-Pierre was supervised by a trainee, who was repeating a year, who later admitted in court: 'I was not up to the task I was entrusted with.'

          "Given it was not a vital operation, that the hospital was on strike, they were missing doctors and this woman was looking after eight patients, in two different rooms, someone should have called me to say they were going to delay the operation."

          They never did -- and between the anesthetist and trainee, numerous errors were made.

          Jean-Pierre was badly intubated, with one tube blocking the pathway to his lungs rather than ventilating them, meaning he was starved of oxygen whereupon he suffered a cardiac arrest.

          "I found him lying on a bed, tubes everywhere," she remembers after rushing to the hospital. "I didn't leave the hospital for five days. I thought he was going to wake up and that I needed to be there."
          "I will make the boys feel your support"
          Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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            #10040
            Originally posted by Harv View Post
            I don't understand why you would keep someone on life support for nearly 40 yrs.
            Devotion on the wife's part.
            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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              #10041
              Originally posted by Harv View Post
              I don't understand why you would keep someone on life support for nearly 40 yrs.
              In case they wake up? Perhaps you'd just stick a pillow on his face after a couple of years and get on with life?
              Was muß, das muß.

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                #10042
                Originally posted by HamboCairns View Post
                In case they wake up? Perhaps you'd just stick a pillow on his face after a couple of years and get on with life?
                Wouldn't need to do anything as drastic as that, you just switch the machine off.

                You seem to have a real bug up your arse about me dude. My advice is to let it go. You get triggered with literally anything I say.

                But for conversations sake-
                Its 40 years!! He's been in a coma and being artificially kept alive for longer than ive been in existence. Putting emotions aside and his families obvious attachment, its actually quite cruel and selfish. What could you actually expect if he suddenly woke up after say 20-30 yrs? He'd highly likely be a vegetable, bound to a wheelchair as his muscles and tendons would have wasted away and need 24/7 care. What kind of life is that? Then you get to the fact he's lost over half his life and be confronted with an entirely different world to the one he knew. Cant even imagine the mental strain that would cause (if his brain functioned normally after being dormant for that long)

                Sometimes you just have to let things go, as hard as that can be.
                "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                  #10043
                  Originally posted by Harv View Post
                  Wouldn't need to do anything as drastic as that, you just switch the machine off.

                  You seem to have a real bug up your arse about me dude. My advice is to let it go. You get triggered with literally anything I say.

                  But for conversations sake-
                  Its 40 years!! He's been in a coma and being artificially kept alive for longer than ive been in existence. Putting emotions aside and his families obvious attachment, its actually quite cruel and selfish. What could you actually expect if he suddenly woke up after say 20-30 yrs? He'd highly likely be a vegetable, bound to a wheelchair as his muscles and tendons would have wasted away and need 24/7 care. What kind of life is that? Then you get to the fact he's lost over half his life and be confronted with an entirely different world to the one he knew. Cant even imagine the mental strain that would cause (if his brain functioned normally after being dormant for that long)

                  Sometimes you just have to let things go, as hard as that can be.

                  I promise I have nothing against you, you just have interesting views which I enjoy exploring.

                  So back to the topic, what you say is true idealistically but at what point as a spouse or family member do you give up? Do you give yourself a hard limit and say 5 years? What if he were to wake up after 5 years a month?

                  Each new day would be just like the previous one, you couldn't switch it off then so it's unlikely you couldn't switch it off today. Multiply this by 10,000..
                  Was muß, das muß.

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                    #10044
                    [ame="https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1435143200147132420"]https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1435143200147132420[/ame]

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                      #10045
                      Originally posted by HamboCairns View Post
                      I promise I have nothing against you, you just have interesting views which I enjoy exploring.

                      So back to the topic, what you say is true idealistically but at what point as a spouse or family member do you give up? Do you give yourself a hard limit and say 5 years? What if he were to wake up after 5 years a month?

                      Each new day would be just like the previous one, you couldn't switch it off then so it's unlikely you couldn't switch it off today. Multiply this by 10,000..
                      Well it all comes down to probability and medical opinion/science. What's going to happen if they do wake up? What sort of quality of life are they going to have if they do wake up? How does that change day by day, month by month, year by year? Is their brain functioning normally? Will they be able to talk, walk etc? After a while, it just becomes cruel IMO. At a certain point you're only holding on for your own benefit (and not wanting to lose someone you love) not theirs.

                      All i think about is if that was me, i wouldn't want that life at the end of it.
                      "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                      "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                        #10046
                        Originally posted by Harv View Post
                        Well it all comes down to probability and medical opinion/science. What's going to happen if they do wake up? What sort of quality of life are they going to have if they do wake up? How does that change day by day, month by month, year by year? Is their brain functioning normally? Will they be able to talk, walk etc? After a while, it just becomes cruel IMO. At a certain point you're only holding on for your own benefit (and not wanting to lose someone you love) not theirs.

                        All i think about is if that was me, i wouldn't want that life at the end of it.
                        I guess there are a few factors in this, the first one being that she was told or believed that he would recover in a few weeks, others being his/her religious beliefs etc I guess in the 80's issues such as dying with dignity etc weren't as widely discussed, I suspect laws on switching machines off have probably changed in that time too.

                        I wonder what medical advice she was getting presumably it must have changed over the years. I guess if told he wasn't going to wake up in 40 years she might have made a different decision

                        I wonder what medical advice she was getting.
                        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          #10047
                          I can't help but think this tweet may overstate the fallout from a few topless fat blokes shouting.

                          [ame]https://twitter.com/ToonMouthTyne/status/1435235218751905797[/ame]
                          Football without Origi is nothing

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                            #10048
                            VARs alright

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                              #10049
                              Yeah, bit of an odd decision. Both looked like pens.
                              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                                #10050
                                That'll ****ing do.

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