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    Manchester United have responded to Real Madrid’s bid for David De Gea by telling the Spanish club they want to sign Sergio Ramos, the Guardian understands.

    The 29-year-old central defender, who has played 128 times for Spain, has an official buyout clause of €180m (£128m). But his contract at the Santiago Bernabéu expires in July 2017 and United are believed to think they have a chance of signing Ramos without having to meet that figure.

    Real Madrid have already had an initial bid for De Gea turned down, believed to be in the region of €18m. Representatives then travelled to the UK for a meeting at which they requested United set a price for the goalkeeper. Madrid remain convinced they will eventually sign De Gea, who has one year left on his contract and wants to return to Spain, and anticipated a meeting that would be a formality. Instead they met a counter-bid: you want De Gea, we want Ramos.

    The central defender has been at Real Madrid for 10 seasons since joining from Sevilla for €27m euros. He has played more than 400 games for Madrid and is the vice-captain but negotiations over a new contract have been at a standstill for some time. There have been significant hints of a tension between the player and the club, encouraging United in their pursuit.

    There has been interest from other clubs in Europe but none have communicated that directly to Madrid. Real deny having any offers at all. The Barcelona presidential candidate, Jordi Majo, claimed he had been indirectly offered Ramos two days ago. Real Madrid did not deny that story but the player’s camp did, in the Spanish media.

    Ramos has two years left on the deal he signed in 2011, meaning Madrid’s hand may not yet be forced – certainly not to the extent that they believe United’s hand is forced regarding De Gea. It is unusual for Madrid to allow a player’s deal to enter into the final two years, though. According to calculations by the Spanish sports daily AS, 11 of the last 14 renewals undertaken by the president, Florentino Pérez, have been finalised before this stage.

    Ramos earns €6m euros a year after tax.


    That rug really tied the room together.

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      Scary that Ramos is 29 already. Last 10 years have flew by.
      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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        Isn't Ramos a massive cunt or is that Pepe? Or is it both of them?!
        Was muß, das muß.

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          Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
          Isn't Ramos a massive cunt or is that Pepe? Or is it both of them?!
          Both of them.
          That rug really tied the room together.

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            Originally posted by Liverpel View Post
            Both of them.
            That should suit Man Utd then!
            Was muß, das muß.

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              Ramos and Schweinsteiger would be impressive in terms of quality and leadership. Big names too.

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                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                I think the issue is not between negative and positive. Its that a negative argument can be seen as a positive if its well reasoned.

                If you think Lovren is a waste of money. Explain why rather than just stating a fact. Because everyone knows he was a waste. Repeating it just ****s people off.

                Criticism is one of the main points for a forum, but dividing people into Positive and Negative camps doesnt really help anything. Im down on the club at the moment, but I like to think im not Negative in how I post about it.
                Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                I think Spurs will finish above us next season, the squads are close in ability, and their's might just edge it, but I think Pochettino is a better manager.
                Fortunately I missed all the posts by the tag-team and don't feel like responding to that, but what is so negative about that point I just made? I however think it got very negative reactions which are bound to get another batch of reactions.

                Like Shaggy said, we finished behind them for 5 out 6 seasons, they have a good manager and they have a good team, their keeper is very good, Eriksen, Dier and Kane make a strong spine and they have good young players coming through to beef up the squad.
                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                  [ame]https://twitter.com/FutbolSergi/status/612954531710631937[/ame]
                  Originally posted by fah-q
                  Didn't someone once see Philip Schofield ****ting into a crisp packet?

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                    Cech to Arsenal ....excellent deal for them.

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                      Kondogbia to Inter reported to be 35m euros (£25m).

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                        Originally posted by Bender View Post
                        Kondogbia to Inter reported to be 35m euros (£25m).
                        Same price as we paid for Lallana.

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                          Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                          Same price as we paid for Lallana.
                          yep..... good signing for Inter

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                            Cech gone to Arsenal
                            Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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                              Originally posted by Bender View Post
                              yep..... good signing for Inter
                              We don't know that yet.
                              That rug really tied the room together.

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                                Think Cech might turn out to be the best transfer this summer. Surprised Mourinho is letting him join a rival.
                                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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