Scottish Premier League

[spud_gun]

Gerrard has done a fantastic job in turning Rangers from also rans into Champions in his three seasons there.

At the same time the Celtic board have done an equally fantastic job of running the club into the ground in the same time frame.

The John McGinn transfers succinctly sums up how badly Celtic have been managed in that period. They refused to pay £3m to sign him from Hibs. He's probably worth 10 x that now.

[frank the tank]

Gerrard has done a fantastic job in turning Rangers from also rans into Champions in his three seasons there.

At the same time the Celtic board have done an equally fantastic job of running the club into the ground in the same time frame.

The John McGinn transfers succinctly sums up how badly Celtic have been managed in that period. They refused to pay £3m to sign him from Hibs. He's probably worth 10 x that now.

I think Celtic need a strong rangers to make investment viable. Being listed on the stock exchange means that they are essentially answerable to shareholders. In reality it has therefore been hard to justify spending big money on transfer fees and wages because there were pretty much guaranteed the domestic title regardless of how much they spent on transfer fees. And they were never going to spend the big bucks required to do well in european competition.

Their business model is essentially to be a feeder club for teams in the Premier League. And that has proven successful to be fair. So while your example of McGinn is valid, they have made huge profits on the likes of Tierney (25m), Virgil (10m with 25% sell on), Dembele (20+ million), Wanyama (12m), Forster (10m), McGeady (10m), Frimpong (9m)..... none of these players cost them more than the 2.3m they paid for VVD.

[spud_gun]

I think Celtic need a strong rangers to make investment viable. Being listed on the stock exchange means that they are essentially answerable to shareholders. In reality it has therefore been hard to justify spending big money on transfer fees and wages because there were pretty much guaranteed the domestic title regardless of how much they spent on transfer fees. And they were never going to spend the big bucks required to do well in european competition.

Their business model is essentially to be a feeder club for teams in the Premier League. And that has proven successful to be fair. So while your example of McGinn is valid, they have made huge profits on the likes of Tierney (25m), Virgil (10m with 25% sell on), Dembele (20+ million), Wanyama (12m), Forster (10m), McGeady (10m), Frimpong (9m)..... none of these players cost them more than the 2.3m they paid for VVD.

It's all relative but they have spent a decent amount of money on players in recent season. They've spent it on utter dog **** though.

You're right their model did/does appear to be sign cheap European players and sign them on for fairly hefty fees. This model is flawed in so far as it requires a continued flow of good signings coming into the club.

4 of the 7 players you listed above left Celtic 5+ years ago (McGeady, VVD, Wanyama and Forster) . 2 others came through the youth set-up (McGeady and Tierney)

The success or lack there of this season is also relative. They're one season removed from winning the quadruple treble or some such nonsense

Final thought - McGinn is / was a real sliding doors moment for them. He was a good player at Hibs and would have gone on to prove himself more than worth a place in the Celtic team. They'd no doubt have sold him or be looking to sell him for a very healthy profit

[Buzzo]

It’s not all OF in Scottish football. 9600 tickets sold for a game that’s on BBC and nobody can attend in person

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[spud_gun]

It’s not all OF in Scottish football. 9600 tickets sold for a game that’s on BBC and nobody can attend in person

https://twitter.com/ictfc/status/1358015501935517697

https://twitter.com/scottiewilson/st...42293865361408

The lower leagues in Scotland have been doing similar for the last year

https://donateaticket.com/

Decent amount of money raised for the clubs

[Shaggy]

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[Buzzo]

Scottish refs are the worst.

[RedAndWhite]

If he keeps that level of performance up he will be a premier league ref next season....

[labourRed]

It was a stone-waller to be fair. Booking him (Morelos) was rubbing salt into the wounds.

[S-RED]

Ref's hate Moralles don't they?

[Buzzo]

To be fair I’m not sure all of the blame can be placed at the refs door in the case of Morelos. Saying that this seems to be his calmest season ever.

[labourRed]

Ref's hate Moralles don't they?

I'm not even sure his own mum likes him. I don't watch a lot or any of Rangers bar highlights and every time i do, he's in the thick of it.

[BobTheCharmer]

Anyone seen the video of Gerrard trying to drive into Ibrox? Mental. Flares, crowds everywhere. A nice warm up for when he rock's up at Anfield to manage us in the future.

[Liverpool]

knocks a copper over on the way to game, dancing with the players and then sliding across the floor. Not sure many managers would pull off these antics.

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[Buzzo]

26 mins away from the title unless Celtic score v Dundee Utd.